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    只看楼主 倒序阅读 楼主  发表于: 2011-06-21
    我现在在初学zemax的公差分析,找了一个双胶合透镜 /fV;^=:8c  
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    然后添加了默认公差分析,基本没变 0>Z_*U~6  
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    然后运行分析的结果如下: 8E]F$.6U  
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    Analysis of Tolerances TBU&6M>{3  
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    File : E:\光学设计资料\zemax练习\f500.ZMX K0Fh%Y4)QH  
    Title: l0A&9g*l2  
    Date : TUE JUN 21 2011 W-zP/]Dh  
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    Units are Millimeters. %&t<K3&Yh  
    All changes are computed using linear differences. ~Vjl7G\7i  
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    Paraxial Focus compensation only. h2 ;F  
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    WARNING: Solves should be removed prior to tolerancing. WlBc.kFck  
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    Mnemonics: ,]c 1A$Sr0  
    TFRN: Tolerance on curvature in fringes. '}bgLv  
    TTHI: Tolerance on thickness. "vE4E|  
    TSDX: Tolerance on surface decentering in x. x39<6_?G  
    TSDY: Tolerance on surface decentering in y. Z Sd4z:/  
    TSTX: Tolerance on surface tilt in x (degrees). 2WxQ(:d=  
    TSTY: Tolerance on surface tilt in y (degrees). 9\JF`ff_  
    TIRR: Tolerance on irregularity (fringes). JbQ) sp  
    TIND: Tolerance on Nd index of refraction. #';:2Nyq  
    TEDX: Tolerance on element decentering in x. +pn N!:q  
    TEDY: Tolerance on element decentering in y. Whf.fK  
    TETX: Tolerance on element tilt in x (degrees). hv_XP,1K  
    TETY: Tolerance on element tilt in y (degrees). IG9VdDj  
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    WARNING: RAY AIMING IS OFF. Very loose tolerances may not be computed accurately. zi*R`;_`,  
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    WARNING: Boundary constraints on compensators will be ignored. LvUj9eVb/L  
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    Criterion           : Geometric MTF average S&T at 30.0000 cycles per mm gn".u!9j  
    Mode                : Sensitivities PGV/ h  
    Sampling            : 2 Bad:n o\W  
    Nominal Criterion   : 0.54403234 2{G:=U  
    Test Wavelength     : 0.6328 F,)%?<!I  
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    Fields: XY Symmetric Angle in degrees ;&-k#PE]/H  
    #      X-Field      Y-Field       Weight    VDX    VDY    VCX    VCY \<TXS)w]  
    1   0.000E+000   0.000E+000   1.000E+000  0.000  0.000  0.000  0.000 !LN?PKJ  
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    Sensitivity Analysis: t$#jL5  
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                     |----------------- Minimum ----------------| |----------------- Maximum ----------------| p hzKm9  
    Type                      Value      Criterion        Change          Value      Criterion        Change s 3f-7f<  
    Fringe tolerance on surface 1 /?F/9hL  
    TFRN   1            -1.00000000     0.54257256    -0.00145977     1.00000000     0.54548607     0.00145374 vbe|hO""  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.000000                            0.000000 3c6b6  
    Fringe tolerance on surface 2 0eu$ W  
    TFRN   2            -1.00000000     0.54177471    -0.00225762     1.00000000     0.54627463     0.00224230 !*bMa8]*  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 .I0qGg  
    Fringe tolerance on surface 3 0Bi.6r  
    TFRN   3            -1.00000000     0.54779866     0.00376632     1.00000000     0.54022572    -0.00380662 @Y<bwv  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.000000                            0.000000 v"XGCi91L  
    Thickness tolerance on surface 1 @wo(tf=@P  
    TTHI   1   3        -0.20000000     0.54321462    -0.00081772     0.20000000     0.54484759     0.00081525 WQL\y3f5  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 iq( E'`d  
    Thickness tolerance on surface 2 D}8[bWF  
    TTHI   2   3        -0.20000000     0.54478712     0.00075478     0.20000000     0.54327558    -0.00075675 /Uy"M:|V1  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                           -0.000000 QD*35Y!d  
    Decenter X tolerance on surfaces 1 through 3 (~wqa 3  
    TEDX   1   3        -0.20000000     0.54401464   -1.7700E-005     0.20000000     0.54401464   -1.7700E-005 bU:EqW\(^  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 Jx7C'~,J  
    Decenter Y tolerance on surfaces 1 through 3 64G[|" j D  
    TEDY   1   3        -0.20000000     0.54401464   -1.7700E-005     0.20000000     0.54401464   -1.7700E-005 ={d>iB yq  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 (I{rLS!o,L  
    Tilt X tolerance on surfaces 1 through 3 (degrees) 2:7zG "$  
    TETX   1   3        -0.20000000     0.54897548     0.00494314     0.20000000     0.54897548     0.00494314 ,-d 0b0  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 PV\+P6aIb  
    Tilt Y tolerance on surfaces 1 through 3 (degrees) MWpQ^dL_  
    TETY   1   3        -0.20000000     0.54897548     0.00494314     0.20000000     0.54897548     0.00494314 6vNrBB  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 p=GBUII #  
    Decenter X tolerance on surface 1 6BbGA*%{  
    TSDX   1            -0.20000000     0.53999563    -0.00403671     0.20000000     0.53999563    -0.00403671 +&( Mgbna  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 yt=3sq  
    Decenter Y tolerance on surface 1 p,>5\Zre~  
    TSDY   1            -0.20000000     0.53999563    -0.00403671     0.20000000     0.53999563    -0.00403671 >TnTnFWX  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 i}mVQ\j5  
    Tilt X tolerance on surface (degrees) 1 Zrk4*/ VY  
    TSTX   1            -0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851     0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851 v|%Z+w  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 T;y>>_,  
    Tilt Y tolerance on surface (degrees) 1 -$jEfi4I  
    TSTY   1            -0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851     0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851 dDGgvi|[Mz  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 vAh6+K.e  
    Decenter X tolerance on surface 2 p&bROuw<T  
    TSDX   2            -0.20000000     0.51705427    -0.02697807     0.20000000     0.51705427    -0.02697807 9- YwkK#z  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 'H&2HXw&2  
    Decenter Y tolerance on surface 2 F{Jw ^\  
    TSDY   2            -0.20000000     0.51705427    -0.02697807     0.20000000     0.51705427    -0.02697807 +)<wDDC_  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 7- ] as$  
    Tilt X tolerance on surface (degrees) 2 f~y%%+{p  
    TSTX   2            -0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324     0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324 w?wG(+X7  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 y7 3VFb  
    Tilt Y tolerance on surface (degrees) 2 ;q:zT\A  
    TSTY   2            -0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324     0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324 `V]5sE]G  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 3U.88{y  
    Decenter X tolerance on surface 3 4c$ zKqz  
    TSDX   3            -0.20000000     0.53419039    -0.00984195     0.20000000     0.53419039    -0.00984195 PQnF  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 ,)Ju[  
    Decenter Y tolerance on surface 3 1#*a:F&re  
    TSDY   3            -0.20000000     0.53419039    -0.00984195     0.20000000     0.53419039    -0.00984195 Ov4y %Pj  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 O[s{ Gk'>  
    Tilt X tolerance on surface (degrees) 3 7/ysVWt  
    TSTX   3            -0.20000000     0.42861670    -0.11541563     0.20000000     0.42861670    -0.11541563 !QHFg-=7  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 ?NR A:t(}  
    Tilt Y tolerance on surface (degrees) 3 0Lc9M-Lg  
    TSTY   3            -0.20000000     0.42861670    -0.11541563     0.20000000     0.42861670    -0.11541563 !?p%xj?  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 v'qG26  
    Irregularity of surface 1 in fringes i2YuOV!  
    TIRR   1            -0.20000000     0.50973587    -0.03429647     0.20000000     0.57333868     0.02930634 'EF9Zt8  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 ') gi%  
    Irregularity of surface 2 in fringes d`nVc50  
    TIRR   2            -0.20000000     0.53400904    -0.01002330     0.20000000     0.55360281     0.00957047 RwPN gRF  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 P8>d6;o($  
    Irregularity of surface 3 in fringes 9:,\gw>F  
    TIRR   3            -0.20000000     0.58078982     0.03675748     0.20000000     0.49904394    -0.04498840 e8]\U/  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 ng:9 l3 x  
    Index tolerance on surface 1 L%K\C  
    TIND   1            -0.00100000     0.52606778    -0.01796456     0.00100000     0.56121811     0.01718578 S\5bmvqP"  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 04'~ta(t  
    Index tolerance on surface 2 H]p!\H  
    TIND   2            -0.00100000     0.55639086     0.01235852     0.00100000     0.53126361    -0.01276872 WObvbaK  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                           -0.000000 .0iQad&duh  
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    Worst offenders: \"^w'ng  
    Type                      Value      Criterion        Change ]Nl=wZ#`  
    TSTY   2            -0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324 !z<%GQ CT  
    TSTY   2             0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324 {Jx4xpvPo  
    TSTX   2            -0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324 U{z9>  
    TSTX   2             0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324 'u_t<F ]b  
    TSTY   1            -0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851 I8/DR z$A  
    TSTY   1             0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851 ryCI>vJz  
    TSTX   1            -0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851 k RD%b[*d  
    TSTX   1             0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851 pN9A{v(  
    TSTY   3            -0.20000000     0.42861670    -0.11541563 D <&X_  
    TSTY   3             0.20000000     0.42861670    -0.11541563 {R61cD,n  
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    Estimated Performance Changes based upon Root-Sum-Square method: *l;B\=KR  
    Nominal MTF                 :     0.54403234 t{FlB!jv  
    Estimated change            :    -0.36299231 x{,q]u /  
    Estimated MTF               :     0.18104003 S_v'hlrrT  
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    Compensator Statistics: vR=6pl$|~~  
    Change in back focus: l)w Hl%p  
    Minimum            :        -0.000000 2aB^WY'tC  
    Maximum            :         0.000000 d/|D<Sb[s  
    Mean               :        -0.000000 ;3@YZM'wt  
    Standard Deviation :         0.000000 OhmQ,  
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    Monte Carlo Analysis: f<*Js)k  
    Number of trials: 20 P=+nB*hG  
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    Initial Statistics: Normal Distribution b0A1hb[|  
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      Trial       Criterion        Change J}@z_^|"mJ  
          1     0.42804416    -0.11598818 ~$f;U  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.400171 jfx8EbQ  
          2     0.54384387    -0.00018847 =w5O&(  
    Change in Focus                :       1.018470 M$d%p6Cv  
          3     0.44510003    -0.09893230 NeBsv= [-  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.601922 O Xi@c;F  
          4     0.18154684    -0.36248550 "zY](P  
    Change in Focus                :       0.920681 5"]~oPK  
          5     0.28665820    -0.25737414 U{$1[,f  
    Change in Focus                :       1.253875 c.f"Gv  
          6     0.21263372    -0.33139862 Q33"u/-v  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.903878 RQB]/D\BO  
          7     0.40051424    -0.14351809 $DC*i-}qFg  
    Change in Focus                :      -1.354815 7GS V  
          8     0.48754161    -0.05649072 X_G| hx  
    Change in Focus                :       0.215922 |R@~-Ht  
          9     0.40357468    -0.14045766 *;U'[H3Q  
    Change in Focus                :       0.281783 + "}=d3E6  
         10     0.26315315    -0.28087919 ?D)<,  
    Change in Focus                :      -1.048393 ]cC[-F[  
         11     0.26120585    -0.28282649 Z,;cCxE  
    Change in Focus                :       1.017611 Hiv!BV|  
         12     0.24033815    -0.30369419 5,;`$'?a%  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.109292 ;.Ie#Vr1N  
         13     0.37164046    -0.17239188 N+)?$[  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.692430 ,j ',x\  
         14     0.48597489    -0.05805744 <{:  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.662040 <0.$'M~E  
         15     0.21462327    -0.32940907 bo=ZM9  
    Change in Focus                :       1.611296 e{9jn>\,a  
         16     0.43378226    -0.11025008 J3b4cxm  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.640081 1b>C<\  
         17     0.39321881    -0.15081353 o}'bv  
    Change in Focus                :       0.914906 omf  Rs  
         18     0.20692530    -0.33710703 H{c?lT  
    Change in Focus                :       0.801607 )Vk6;__  
         19     0.51374068    -0.03029165 (9mMkU=  
    Change in Focus                :       0.947293 F;!2(sPS  
         20     0.38013374    -0.16389860 DtWwG C  
    Change in Focus                :       0.667010 ^t*x*m8  
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    Number of traceable Monte Carlo files generated: 20 m&oi8 P-6  
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    Nominal     0.54403234 @C-dG7U.P  
    Best        0.54384387    Trial     2 nCvPB/-  
    Worst       0.18154684    Trial     4 YEx)"t8E  
    Mean        0.35770970 ;#) mLsl  
    Std Dev     0.11156454 ^Ori| 4}'  
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    Compensator Statistics: -(JUd4#  
    Change in back focus: zMK](o1Vj  
    Minimum            :        -1.354815 W:VP1 :  
    Maximum            :         1.611296 8g7,2f/ }  
    Mean               :         0.161872 Zx?b<"k  
    Standard Deviation :         0.869664 M}"r#Plq  
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    90% >       0.20977951               `wTlyS3[  
    80% >       0.22748071               tue/4Q#7  
    50% >       0.38667627               W {.78Zi9K  
    20% >       0.46553746               }98>5%Uv  
    10% >       0.50064115                VnJMmMM  
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    这就有了些疑问,为什么我选择的补偿器是近轴焦点,而分析结果近轴焦点都不变化??应该是变得。另外最后的蒙特卡洛分析,只有10%的大于0.5(我用的是MTF作为评价方式),可是我设计的MTF如图 $ 'QdFkOr  
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    是大于0.6左右的,难道我按照这个默认的公差来加工的话,只有10%的才可能大于0.5?那太低了啊,请问这该怎么进行进一步处理。或者之前哪有问题 :Px\qh}K  
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    只看该作者 1楼 发表于: 2011-06-21
    我又试了试,原来是得根据上面的结果不断修改公差,放松或者变紧,然后在做公差分析,不断提高蒙特卡罗的结果。但是比如就拿我这个来说,理想是达到30lp处>0.6,那么实际做蒙特卡罗公差分析时,百分之多少以上的MTF是合格的呢?
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    90% >       0.20977951                 qZ G-Lh  
    80% >       0.22748071                 U=o Z.\  
    50% >       0.38667627                 x|apQ6  
    20% >       0.46553746                 Z[,`"}}hv=  
    10% >       0.50064115 +6%7C C6  
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    最后这个数值是MTF值呢,还是MTF的公差? /.Wc_/  
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    也就是说,这到底是有90%的产品MTF大于0.20977951还是90%的产品的MTF变化量大于0.20977951???   |qL;Nu,d  
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    怎么没人啊,大家讨论讨论吗
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    没有人啊???
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    引用第2楼sansummer于2011-06-22 08:56发表的  : nR#a)et  
    90% >       0.20977951                 A9.;>8!u  
    80% >       0.22748071                 +"G(  
    50% >       0.38667627                 kt5YgW  
    20% >       0.46553746                 |<7i|J  
    10% >       0.50064115 .k|-Ks|d|  
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    这些数值都是MTF值
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    Criterion           : Geometric MTF average S&T at 30.0000 cycles per mm   4E,hcu  
    Mode                : Sensitivities 939]8BERt  
    Sampling            : 2 /6A:J]Q_  
    Nominal Criterion   : 0.54403234 B1up^(?  
    Test Wavelength     : 0.6328 'XG:1Bpm  
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    波长632.8nm 时 mtf 是 0.54403234  没达到0.6
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    谢谢。您说的“波长632.8nm 时 mtf 是 0.54403234  没达到0.6”这是一个评价标准吧? pXGK:ceFu  
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    这个评价标准和我理想的设计结果的0.6有什么联系吗,另外这个 0.54403234  是这么来的?
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    你试试把原来的系统波长改成632.8nm,看看Geometric MTF    30 per mm 的mtf值是不是0.54403234
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    啊...这倒也是。换了波长的确可能有所变化。另外还有就是如果现在百分比太低,我是否应该考虑把最敏感的公差再紧一些,就会好了?
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    恩,多多尝试