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    我现在在初学zemax的公差分析,找了一个双胶合透镜 +~ Ay h[V  
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    然后添加了默认公差分析,基本没变 bV*zMoD#  
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    然后运行分析的结果如下: F ^t?*   
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    Analysis of Tolerances rDX'oP:  
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    File : E:\光学设计资料\zemax练习\f500.ZMX  'Q>z**  
    Title: Jx$#GUl#j  
    Date : TUE JUN 21 2011 P`dHR;Y0  
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    Units are Millimeters. 1`]IU_)1B  
    All changes are computed using linear differences. pptM &Y  
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    Paraxial Focus compensation only. asN }  
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    WARNING: Solves should be removed prior to tolerancing. YOV4)P"  
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    Mnemonics: =l4\4td9p  
    TFRN: Tolerance on curvature in fringes. ioNa~F&  
    TTHI: Tolerance on thickness. Jrd4a~XP  
    TSDX: Tolerance on surface decentering in x. `m 3QT3B  
    TSDY: Tolerance on surface decentering in y. ),Ho(%T\  
    TSTX: Tolerance on surface tilt in x (degrees). Tj21YK.mk  
    TSTY: Tolerance on surface tilt in y (degrees). 3U"')  
    TIRR: Tolerance on irregularity (fringes). JkDPuTXD  
    TIND: Tolerance on Nd index of refraction. #C1A5JE&  
    TEDX: Tolerance on element decentering in x. /;NE]{K  
    TEDY: Tolerance on element decentering in y. 3zTE4pHzu+  
    TETX: Tolerance on element tilt in x (degrees). Yuo1'gE+  
    TETY: Tolerance on element tilt in y (degrees). `X<`j6zaG  
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    WARNING: RAY AIMING IS OFF. Very loose tolerances may not be computed accurately. [TK? P0  
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    WARNING: Boundary constraints on compensators will be ignored. rW~?0  
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    Criterion           : Geometric MTF average S&T at 30.0000 cycles per mm Sm$j:xw <  
    Mode                : Sensitivities 3P#+) F~  
    Sampling            : 2 0L0Jc,(F+  
    Nominal Criterion   : 0.54403234 dxn0HXU  
    Test Wavelength     : 0.6328 r*N~. tFo  
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    Fields: XY Symmetric Angle in degrees XK%W^a*x  
    #      X-Field      Y-Field       Weight    VDX    VDY    VCX    VCY WiNr866nB  
    1   0.000E+000   0.000E+000   1.000E+000  0.000  0.000  0.000  0.000 2rO)qjiH  
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    Sensitivity Analysis: 6I&j cHH  
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                     |----------------- Minimum ----------------| |----------------- Maximum ----------------| Q&upxE4-~  
    Type                      Value      Criterion        Change          Value      Criterion        Change R] Disljq  
    Fringe tolerance on surface 1 7.$]f71z  
    TFRN   1            -1.00000000     0.54257256    -0.00145977     1.00000000     0.54548607     0.00145374 w`j*W$82  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.000000                            0.000000 *"ykTqa  
    Fringe tolerance on surface 2 'G l;Ir^  
    TFRN   2            -1.00000000     0.54177471    -0.00225762     1.00000000     0.54627463     0.00224230 3|~(?4aE  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 Bn1L?>G  
    Fringe tolerance on surface 3 b ~/Wnp5  
    TFRN   3            -1.00000000     0.54779866     0.00376632     1.00000000     0.54022572    -0.00380662 u%=bHg  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.000000                            0.000000 oE!hF}O  
    Thickness tolerance on surface 1 ]HyHz9QkL  
    TTHI   1   3        -0.20000000     0.54321462    -0.00081772     0.20000000     0.54484759     0.00081525 @TA8^ND  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 BZJKiiD  
    Thickness tolerance on surface 2 #u8*CA9  
    TTHI   2   3        -0.20000000     0.54478712     0.00075478     0.20000000     0.54327558    -0.00075675 ,Um5S6 Z  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                           -0.000000 T/wM(pr'   
    Decenter X tolerance on surfaces 1 through 3 v~V;+S=gz  
    TEDX   1   3        -0.20000000     0.54401464   -1.7700E-005     0.20000000     0.54401464   -1.7700E-005 Gg}5$||^C  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 NokXE  
    Decenter Y tolerance on surfaces 1 through 3 (Bt;DM#>  
    TEDY   1   3        -0.20000000     0.54401464   -1.7700E-005     0.20000000     0.54401464   -1.7700E-005 QT1:> k  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 { r6]MS#l1  
    Tilt X tolerance on surfaces 1 through 3 (degrees) gH{:`E k7  
    TETX   1   3        -0.20000000     0.54897548     0.00494314     0.20000000     0.54897548     0.00494314 [|a( y6Q  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 *MYt:ms  
    Tilt Y tolerance on surfaces 1 through 3 (degrees) y _'eyR@)  
    TETY   1   3        -0.20000000     0.54897548     0.00494314     0.20000000     0.54897548     0.00494314 G-\<5]k]  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 <`c25ih.4  
    Decenter X tolerance on surface 1 YKP=0 j3,  
    TSDX   1            -0.20000000     0.53999563    -0.00403671     0.20000000     0.53999563    -0.00403671 S}.\v<  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 tLS<0  
    Decenter Y tolerance on surface 1 {A]k%74-a  
    TSDY   1            -0.20000000     0.53999563    -0.00403671     0.20000000     0.53999563    -0.00403671 M5']sdR(l  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 e1%rVQ(v  
    Tilt X tolerance on surface (degrees) 1 ^273l(CZ1  
    TSTX   1            -0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851     0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851 t/JOERw  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 n 5~=qQK2  
    Tilt Y tolerance on surface (degrees) 1 j:HH#U  
    TSTY   1            -0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851     0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851 9U2Px$E  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 CV!;oB&  
    Decenter X tolerance on surface 2 x1N me%%&  
    TSDX   2            -0.20000000     0.51705427    -0.02697807     0.20000000     0.51705427    -0.02697807 *he7BUO  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 EkRdpiLB  
    Decenter Y tolerance on surface 2 #"Fg%36Zd  
    TSDY   2            -0.20000000     0.51705427    -0.02697807     0.20000000     0.51705427    -0.02697807 Hs[}l_gYn  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 lir &e 9I+  
    Tilt X tolerance on surface (degrees) 2 x 8 f6,  
    TSTX   2            -0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324     0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324 =LXvlt'Q34  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 cJP'ShnCh  
    Tilt Y tolerance on surface (degrees) 2 0SJ{@*  
    TSTY   2            -0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324     0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324 _/|8%])  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 ':,>eL#+uV  
    Decenter X tolerance on surface 3 \HCOR, `T  
    TSDX   3            -0.20000000     0.53419039    -0.00984195     0.20000000     0.53419039    -0.00984195 'Z\{D*=V8  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 *Jb_=j*)  
    Decenter Y tolerance on surface 3 so} l#  
    TSDY   3            -0.20000000     0.53419039    -0.00984195     0.20000000     0.53419039    -0.00984195 LkaG8#m1R  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 M'^(3#ZU  
    Tilt X tolerance on surface (degrees) 3 mYjf5  
    TSTX   3            -0.20000000     0.42861670    -0.11541563     0.20000000     0.42861670    -0.11541563 jo_o` j  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 |xq} '.C  
    Tilt Y tolerance on surface (degrees) 3 Jf_]Z  
    TSTY   3            -0.20000000     0.42861670    -0.11541563     0.20000000     0.42861670    -0.11541563 q z=yMIy=  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 ha_@Yqgh  
    Irregularity of surface 1 in fringes Qn *6D  
    TIRR   1            -0.20000000     0.50973587    -0.03429647     0.20000000     0.57333868     0.02930634 j,}4TDWa  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 4w@v#H@  
    Irregularity of surface 2 in fringes ?Rlgv5P!  
    TIRR   2            -0.20000000     0.53400904    -0.01002330     0.20000000     0.55360281     0.00957047 }g}6qCv7  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 Am#m>^!qb  
    Irregularity of surface 3 in fringes 9#u}^t  
    TIRR   3            -0.20000000     0.58078982     0.03675748     0.20000000     0.49904394    -0.04498840 -dg}BM  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 GUKDhg,W  
    Index tolerance on surface 1 SLSF <$  
    TIND   1            -0.00100000     0.52606778    -0.01796456     0.00100000     0.56121811     0.01718578 5QR}IxQ  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 ?4:rP@  
    Index tolerance on surface 2 [d0%.+U  
    TIND   2            -0.00100000     0.55639086     0.01235852     0.00100000     0.53126361    -0.01276872 gyC^K3}  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                           -0.000000 Cq gJ  
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    Worst offenders: V R"8Di&)  
    Type                      Value      Criterion        Change QS\Uq(Ja\  
    TSTY   2            -0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324 o1U}/y+R\  
    TSTY   2             0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324 .Nc_n5D6  
    TSTX   2            -0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324 s){Q&E~X  
    TSTX   2             0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324 0X.TF  
    TSTY   1            -0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851 n9DbiL1{  
    TSTY   1             0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851 @Eo4U]-  
    TSTX   1            -0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851 3a%xn4P  
    TSTX   1             0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851 [ qiOd!  
    TSTY   3            -0.20000000     0.42861670    -0.11541563 .M8=^,h^K  
    TSTY   3             0.20000000     0.42861670    -0.11541563 Q2q| *EL  
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    Estimated Performance Changes based upon Root-Sum-Square method: k'x #t(  
    Nominal MTF                 :     0.54403234 6Hda]y  
    Estimated change            :    -0.36299231 : aH%bk  
    Estimated MTF               :     0.18104003 _y>}#6B  
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    Compensator Statistics: q=njKC  
    Change in back focus: au}s=ua~i  
    Minimum            :        -0.000000 gd K*"U  
    Maximum            :         0.000000 Gp,'kw"I  
    Mean               :        -0.000000 xLZ bU4  
    Standard Deviation :         0.000000 U3/8A:$y  
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    Monte Carlo Analysis: ":V%(c  
    Number of trials: 20 X3AwM%,!  
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    Initial Statistics: Normal Distribution n%*tMr9s  
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      Trial       Criterion        Change I :@|^PYw  
          1     0.42804416    -0.11598818 :Z[(A"dA  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.400171 $5x]%1 R  
          2     0.54384387    -0.00018847 >d97l&W  
    Change in Focus                :       1.018470 Uh}+"h5  
          3     0.44510003    -0.09893230 e]+7DE  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.601922 0TmZ*?3!4  
          4     0.18154684    -0.36248550 L $SMfx  
    Change in Focus                :       0.920681 AxEc^Cof  
          5     0.28665820    -0.25737414 {d,?bs)  
    Change in Focus                :       1.253875 pUGN!3  
          6     0.21263372    -0.33139862 " <Qm -  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.903878 3 &Sp@,  
          7     0.40051424    -0.14351809 -qfnUh  
    Change in Focus                :      -1.354815 Ts#pUoE~+H  
          8     0.48754161    -0.05649072 SetX#e?q~  
    Change in Focus                :       0.215922 D&-vq,c  
          9     0.40357468    -0.14045766 Tv1]v.  
    Change in Focus                :       0.281783 $C$ub&D ~"  
         10     0.26315315    -0.28087919 R1Yqz $#  
    Change in Focus                :      -1.048393 %7 /,m  
         11     0.26120585    -0.28282649 B>,A(X&  
    Change in Focus                :       1.017611 q=+ wI"[  
         12     0.24033815    -0.30369419 jI A#!4  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.109292 2 ZK%)vq0  
         13     0.37164046    -0.17239188 Mb1wYh  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.692430 G%$}WA]|  
         14     0.48597489    -0.05805744 4dD2{M  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.662040 &y\igX1  
         15     0.21462327    -0.32940907 >e/ r2U  
    Change in Focus                :       1.611296 KJX>DL 9\  
         16     0.43378226    -0.11025008 K'V 2FTJI  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.640081 3 1k  
         17     0.39321881    -0.15081353 D?mDG|Z  
    Change in Focus                :       0.914906 onib x^Fcd  
         18     0.20692530    -0.33710703 DL1 +c`d  
    Change in Focus                :       0.801607 ` .$&T7  
         19     0.51374068    -0.03029165 Cx,-_  
    Change in Focus                :       0.947293 sjn:O'  
         20     0.38013374    -0.16389860 >8(jW  
    Change in Focus                :       0.667010 WGPD8.  
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    Number of traceable Monte Carlo files generated: 20 H#`8Ey  
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    Nominal     0.54403234 fdLBhe#9M  
    Best        0.54384387    Trial     2 pZjpc#*9N  
    Worst       0.18154684    Trial     4 1fRP1  
    Mean        0.35770970 ]VDn'@uM  
    Std Dev     0.11156454 ntZ~m  
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    Compensator Statistics: ?<6@^X"  
    Change in back focus: GMw)*  
    Minimum            :        -1.354815 ^7^2D2[  
    Maximum            :         1.611296 qlvwK&W<QM  
    Mean               :         0.161872 .`+yo0O:  
    Standard Deviation :         0.869664 @k9Pz<ub  
    WL:0R>0  
    90% >       0.20977951               _ Mn6L=  
    80% >       0.22748071               1]Lh'.1^  
    50% >       0.38667627               -;/ Y  
    20% >       0.46553746               V:>`*tlh  
    10% >       0.50064115                f"P$f8$  
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    End of Run. #N9d$[R*  
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    这就有了些疑问,为什么我选择的补偿器是近轴焦点,而分析结果近轴焦点都不变化??应该是变得。另外最后的蒙特卡洛分析,只有10%的大于0.5(我用的是MTF作为评价方式),可是我设计的MTF如图 yV2e5/i  
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    是大于0.6左右的,难道我按照这个默认的公差来加工的话,只有10%的才可能大于0.5?那太低了啊,请问这该怎么进行进一步处理。或者之前哪有问题 ]x_F{&6U8  
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    只看该作者 1楼 发表于: 2011-06-21
    我又试了试,原来是得根据上面的结果不断修改公差,放松或者变紧,然后在做公差分析,不断提高蒙特卡罗的结果。但是比如就拿我这个来说,理想是达到30lp处>0.6,那么实际做蒙特卡罗公差分析时,百分之多少以上的MTF是合格的呢?
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    90% >       0.20977951                 fp tIc#4  
    80% >       0.22748071                 = hhvmo  
    50% >       0.38667627                 ~QCA -Yud  
    20% >       0.46553746                 xU:4Y0y8  
    10% >       0.50064115 wE4;Rk1  
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    最后这个数值是MTF值呢,还是MTF的公差? +(y>qd  
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    也就是说,这到底是有90%的产品MTF大于0.20977951还是90%的产品的MTF变化量大于0.20977951???   #h{Nz/h+  
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    怎么没人啊,大家讨论讨论吗
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    没有人啊???
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    引用第2楼sansummer于2011-06-22 08:56发表的  : "(N-h\7Ex9  
    90% >       0.20977951                 i6FP[6H1  
    80% >       0.22748071                 v >NTh  
    50% >       0.38667627                 IQ#So]9~Y  
    20% >       0.46553746                 sv@}x[L  
    10% >       0.50064115 pIL`WE1'  
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    这些数值都是MTF值
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    Criterion           : Geometric MTF average S&T at 30.0000 cycles per mm   e_\SSH @tw  
    Mode                : Sensitivities dnk1Mu<  
    Sampling            : 2 2~+'vi  
    Nominal Criterion   : 0.54403234  PVS\,  
    Test Wavelength     : 0.6328 Ogn,1nm%  
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    波长632.8nm 时 mtf 是 0.54403234  没达到0.6
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    谢谢。您说的“波长632.8nm 时 mtf 是 0.54403234  没达到0.6”这是一个评价标准吧? *vEU}SxRuv  
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    这个评价标准和我理想的设计结果的0.6有什么联系吗,另外这个 0.54403234  是这么来的?
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    你试试把原来的系统波长改成632.8nm,看看Geometric MTF    30 per mm 的mtf值是不是0.54403234
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    啊...这倒也是。换了波长的确可能有所变化。另外还有就是如果现在百分比太低,我是否应该考虑把最敏感的公差再紧一些,就会好了?
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