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    只看楼主 倒序阅读 楼主  发表于: 2011-06-21
    我现在在初学zemax的公差分析,找了一个双胶合透镜 N4}/n  
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    然后添加了默认公差分析,基本没变  hPx=3L$  
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    然后运行分析的结果如下: a*NcL(OC  
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    Analysis of Tolerances 1N1MD@C?P  
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    File : E:\光学设计资料\zemax练习\f500.ZMX zm9>"(H  
    Title: ^4O1:_|G  
    Date : TUE JUN 21 2011 ;a XcGa  
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    Units are Millimeters. BE:HO^-.1  
    All changes are computed using linear differences. ((N<2G)  
    60*2k  
    Paraxial Focus compensation only. votv rZ=  
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    WARNING: Solves should be removed prior to tolerancing. tVvRT*>Wb  
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    Mnemonics: /^G1wz2  
    TFRN: Tolerance on curvature in fringes. lDnF(  
    TTHI: Tolerance on thickness. weU'3nNN  
    TSDX: Tolerance on surface decentering in x. /d&zE|!  
    TSDY: Tolerance on surface decentering in y. ^0R.'XL  
    TSTX: Tolerance on surface tilt in x (degrees). z^T/kK3I  
    TSTY: Tolerance on surface tilt in y (degrees). Qn ME|j\  
    TIRR: Tolerance on irregularity (fringes). Z[R E|l{  
    TIND: Tolerance on Nd index of refraction. 8Sd<!  
    TEDX: Tolerance on element decentering in x. 'mXf8   
    TEDY: Tolerance on element decentering in y. f6j;Y<}' g  
    TETX: Tolerance on element tilt in x (degrees). JZNRMxu  
    TETY: Tolerance on element tilt in y (degrees). PF2PMEBx!  
    #;)Oi9{9;  
    WARNING: RAY AIMING IS OFF. Very loose tolerances may not be computed accurately. oa?bOm  
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    WARNING: Boundary constraints on compensators will be ignored. l<>syHCH;L  
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    Criterion           : Geometric MTF average S&T at 30.0000 cycles per mm zt/b S/  
    Mode                : Sensitivities 0/S|h"-L  
    Sampling            : 2 5 >S #ew  
    Nominal Criterion   : 0.54403234 pwtB{6)VH{  
    Test Wavelength     : 0.6328 Aw~ =U!  
    o|YY,G=C  
    ig5 d-A  
    Fields: XY Symmetric Angle in degrees c>#T\AEkF  
    #      X-Field      Y-Field       Weight    VDX    VDY    VCX    VCY ?`bi8 Ck  
    1   0.000E+000   0.000E+000   1.000E+000  0.000  0.000  0.000  0.000 ~[l6;bn  
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    Sensitivity Analysis: HQJ_:x Y  
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                     |----------------- Minimum ----------------| |----------------- Maximum ----------------| ?{[ ISk)  
    Type                      Value      Criterion        Change          Value      Criterion        Change {VtmQU? cJ  
    Fringe tolerance on surface 1 kU{+@MA;  
    TFRN   1            -1.00000000     0.54257256    -0.00145977     1.00000000     0.54548607     0.00145374 Mrysy)x  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.000000                            0.000000 |T\`wcP`q  
    Fringe tolerance on surface 2 OJ^kESrm8  
    TFRN   2            -1.00000000     0.54177471    -0.00225762     1.00000000     0.54627463     0.00224230 y.(Yh1  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000   V` 7  
    Fringe tolerance on surface 3 \  {` `r  
    TFRN   3            -1.00000000     0.54779866     0.00376632     1.00000000     0.54022572    -0.00380662 E}LuWFZ&  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.000000                            0.000000 Fk=Sx<TX  
    Thickness tolerance on surface 1 }Q&zYC]d  
    TTHI   1   3        -0.20000000     0.54321462    -0.00081772     0.20000000     0.54484759     0.00081525 44C"Pl E u  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 r@b M3V_o  
    Thickness tolerance on surface 2 oS6dcJHf  
    TTHI   2   3        -0.20000000     0.54478712     0.00075478     0.20000000     0.54327558    -0.00075675 & mwQj<Z  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                           -0.000000 v;m`d{(i2  
    Decenter X tolerance on surfaces 1 through 3 _/(DEF+G  
    TEDX   1   3        -0.20000000     0.54401464   -1.7700E-005     0.20000000     0.54401464   -1.7700E-005 nwuH:6~"  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 Wi7!J[ B  
    Decenter Y tolerance on surfaces 1 through 3 ZeM~13[  
    TEDY   1   3        -0.20000000     0.54401464   -1.7700E-005     0.20000000     0.54401464   -1.7700E-005 ;w>Dqem  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 zG-pqE6  
    Tilt X tolerance on surfaces 1 through 3 (degrees) & \tD$g~"  
    TETX   1   3        -0.20000000     0.54897548     0.00494314     0.20000000     0.54897548     0.00494314 9<0TF+}>  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 `#@#e Z  
    Tilt Y tolerance on surfaces 1 through 3 (degrees) s8BfOl-  
    TETY   1   3        -0.20000000     0.54897548     0.00494314     0.20000000     0.54897548     0.00494314 NZT2ni4  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 c=d` DJ  
    Decenter X tolerance on surface 1 (zbV-4C  
    TSDX   1            -0.20000000     0.53999563    -0.00403671     0.20000000     0.53999563    -0.00403671 )S?.YCv?  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 SB~HHx09  
    Decenter Y tolerance on surface 1 m8M2ka  
    TSDY   1            -0.20000000     0.53999563    -0.00403671     0.20000000     0.53999563    -0.00403671 UU\wP(f  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 ^4MRG6G  
    Tilt X tolerance on surface (degrees) 1 Ac^hZ.qPz  
    TSTX   1            -0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851     0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851 QIl=Ho"c  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 wavyREK   
    Tilt Y tolerance on surface (degrees) 1 S $j"'K  
    TSTY   1            -0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851     0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851 C_> WU   
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 6=N!()s  
    Decenter X tolerance on surface 2 )M3} 6^s]  
    TSDX   2            -0.20000000     0.51705427    -0.02697807     0.20000000     0.51705427    -0.02697807 hA=.${uIO  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 ;ctPe[5  
    Decenter Y tolerance on surface 2 oZ]^zzoEcg  
    TSDY   2            -0.20000000     0.51705427    -0.02697807     0.20000000     0.51705427    -0.02697807 78M%[7Cq<i  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 {7d(B1[1  
    Tilt X tolerance on surface (degrees) 2 VT ikLuH  
    TSTX   2            -0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324     0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324 7Eb | AR  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 pW4O[v`  
    Tilt Y tolerance on surface (degrees) 2 #*;G8yV  
    TSTY   2            -0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324     0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324 D[jPz0  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 n[[2<s*YJ  
    Decenter X tolerance on surface 3 UP<B>Y1a  
    TSDX   3            -0.20000000     0.53419039    -0.00984195     0.20000000     0.53419039    -0.00984195 Rtywi}VV2  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 r4MPs-}oF  
    Decenter Y tolerance on surface 3 DP@F-Q4  
    TSDY   3            -0.20000000     0.53419039    -0.00984195     0.20000000     0.53419039    -0.00984195 ZNfQM&<d  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 kB#;s  
    Tilt X tolerance on surface (degrees) 3 itYTV?bd  
    TSTX   3            -0.20000000     0.42861670    -0.11541563     0.20000000     0.42861670    -0.11541563 cQzUR^oq,  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 G^1 5V'*  
    Tilt Y tolerance on surface (degrees) 3 DXF>#2E^+  
    TSTY   3            -0.20000000     0.42861670    -0.11541563     0.20000000     0.42861670    -0.11541563 Pk ?M~{S  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 9 AWFjoXl"  
    Irregularity of surface 1 in fringes !l9i)6W  
    TIRR   1            -0.20000000     0.50973587    -0.03429647     0.20000000     0.57333868     0.02930634 ^7Z#g0{^w  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 _a]0<Vm C0  
    Irregularity of surface 2 in fringes }[;{@Zn  
    TIRR   2            -0.20000000     0.53400904    -0.01002330     0.20000000     0.55360281     0.00957047  K P@bz  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 /Fj*sS8  
    Irregularity of surface 3 in fringes tl6x@%\  
    TIRR   3            -0.20000000     0.58078982     0.03675748     0.20000000     0.49904394    -0.04498840 U{C& R&z  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 F_I.=zQr  
    Index tolerance on surface 1 D[p_uDIz  
    TIND   1            -0.00100000     0.52606778    -0.01796456     0.00100000     0.56121811     0.01718578 BbIg]E/G  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 :DG7Z  
    Index tolerance on surface 2 [AHoTlPZ  
    TIND   2            -0.00100000     0.55639086     0.01235852     0.00100000     0.53126361    -0.01276872 b?U2g?lN:  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                           -0.000000 QnJd}(yN  
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    Worst offenders: ~J:qG9|]}  
    Type                      Value      Criterion        Change byJR6f  
    TSTY   2            -0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324 |=u }1G?  
    TSTY   2             0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324 mI> =S  
    TSTX   2            -0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324 0<[g7BbR  
    TSTX   2             0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324 FZBdQhYF  
    TSTY   1            -0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851 JZup} {a  
    TSTY   1             0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851 vqhu%ZyP  
    TSTX   1            -0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851 $Wn!vbL  
    TSTX   1             0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851 u>\u}c  
    TSTY   3            -0.20000000     0.42861670    -0.11541563 (jI_Dk;  
    TSTY   3             0.20000000     0.42861670    -0.11541563 k0bDEz.X  
    s&d!+-\6_  
    Estimated Performance Changes based upon Root-Sum-Square method: dbG902dR  
    Nominal MTF                 :     0.54403234 45 B |U  
    Estimated change            :    -0.36299231 eWGaGRem  
    Estimated MTF               :     0.18104003 GR,gCtG+L  
    c#zx" ,K  
    Compensator Statistics: 'wA4yJ<  
    Change in back focus: ]KM3G  
    Minimum            :        -0.000000 HVz|*?&6  
    Maximum            :         0.000000 g/+|gHq^  
    Mean               :        -0.000000 YH,u*.I^/  
    Standard Deviation :         0.000000 /l` "@  
    Mi<l;ZP  
    Monte Carlo Analysis: SG@E*yT1  
    Number of trials: 20 {d '>J<Da  
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    Initial Statistics: Normal Distribution XK{KFB-  
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      Trial       Criterion        Change 4?33t] "  
          1     0.42804416    -0.11598818 {k uC+~R  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.400171 rVM?[_'O  
          2     0.54384387    -0.00018847 :>-&  
    Change in Focus                :       1.018470 \Lg{GN.  
          3     0.44510003    -0.09893230 Oj1B @QE  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.601922 a}g <<{  
          4     0.18154684    -0.36248550 [_-[S  
    Change in Focus                :       0.920681 $O^"O Q_@  
          5     0.28665820    -0.25737414 5 \iX%w@  
    Change in Focus                :       1.253875 ('6sW/F*ab  
          6     0.21263372    -0.33139862 UO( ?EELm  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.903878 J-ErG!  
          7     0.40051424    -0.14351809 2O(= 2X  
    Change in Focus                :      -1.354815 @MxB d,P  
          8     0.48754161    -0.05649072 ,zOv-pH  
    Change in Focus                :       0.215922 ]D<3y IGS  
          9     0.40357468    -0.14045766 FO:k >F  
    Change in Focus                :       0.281783 .cK<jF@'  
         10     0.26315315    -0.28087919 /s Bs eI  
    Change in Focus                :      -1.048393 ]$)U~)T iW  
         11     0.26120585    -0.28282649 8,L)=3m-  
    Change in Focus                :       1.017611 -Mzm~@_s]  
         12     0.24033815    -0.30369419 E`b<^l`  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.109292 TJ>$ ~9&Sy  
         13     0.37164046    -0.17239188 AGV+Y 6  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.692430 _F`RwBOjs  
         14     0.48597489    -0.05805744 xM_+vN *(  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.662040 ,.i)(Or  
         15     0.21462327    -0.32940907 c,Yd#nokC  
    Change in Focus                :       1.611296 ^=arKp,?5  
         16     0.43378226    -0.11025008 MI,kKi  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.640081 $bF3 v=u`  
         17     0.39321881    -0.15081353 ,HwOMoP7  
    Change in Focus                :       0.914906 ;3&HZq6Z (  
         18     0.20692530    -0.33710703 Ap!Y 3C  
    Change in Focus                :       0.801607 j/, I)Za  
         19     0.51374068    -0.03029165 Rg7~?b-  
    Change in Focus                :       0.947293 r2=4Wx4(  
         20     0.38013374    -0.16389860 -'uz%2 {  
    Change in Focus                :       0.667010 ]SL0Mn g8  
    j4+kL4M@H  
    Number of traceable Monte Carlo files generated: 20 ^]TYS]C  
    <xh";seL  
    Nominal     0.54403234 c^7QiTt_  
    Best        0.54384387    Trial     2 g]9A?#GyE  
    Worst       0.18154684    Trial     4 k3UKGP1  
    Mean        0.35770970 F/:Jp3@  
    Std Dev     0.11156454 6]fz;\DgP  
    ]O0:0Z\  
    ; mwU>l,4  
    Compensator Statistics: 9uW\~DwsZ%  
    Change in back focus: w">-r}HnJ  
    Minimum            :        -1.354815 >#|%y>g .o  
    Maximum            :         1.611296 cm`x;[e6l  
    Mean               :         0.161872 7;SI=  
    Standard Deviation :         0.869664 'Omj-o'tn9  
    %Wa. 2s  
    90% >       0.20977951               *eAzk2  
    80% >       0.22748071               dPmNX-'7  
    50% >       0.38667627               %YwIR.o  
    20% >       0.46553746               ?dY|,_O  
    10% >       0.50064115                Q6hWHfS  
    )BmO[AiOM  
    End of Run. jbTsrj"g  
    ^ ^k]2oG  
    这就有了些疑问,为什么我选择的补偿器是近轴焦点,而分析结果近轴焦点都不变化??应该是变得。另外最后的蒙特卡洛分析,只有10%的大于0.5(我用的是MTF作为评价方式),可是我设计的MTF如图 ~JTp8E9kw  
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    是大于0.6左右的,难道我按照这个默认的公差来加工的话,只有10%的才可能大于0.5?那太低了啊,请问这该怎么进行进一步处理。或者之前哪有问题 ?U(`x6\:  
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    只看该作者 1楼 发表于: 2011-06-21
    我又试了试,原来是得根据上面的结果不断修改公差,放松或者变紧,然后在做公差分析,不断提高蒙特卡罗的结果。但是比如就拿我这个来说,理想是达到30lp处>0.6,那么实际做蒙特卡罗公差分析时,百分之多少以上的MTF是合格的呢?
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    90% >       0.20977951                 PiF&0;  
    80% >       0.22748071                 s|IC;C|  
    50% >       0.38667627                 d#-'DO{k  
    20% >       0.46553746                 `,$PRN"]  
    10% >       0.50064115 'yNS(Bg=  
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    最后这个数值是MTF值呢,还是MTF的公差? `!@d$*:'  
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    也就是说,这到底是有90%的产品MTF大于0.20977951还是90%的产品的MTF变化量大于0.20977951???   P; 9{;  
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    怎么没人啊,大家讨论讨论吗
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    没有人啊???
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    引用第2楼sansummer于2011-06-22 08:56发表的  : @{U@?6eZ  
    90% >       0.20977951                 I R~szUY6  
    80% >       0.22748071                 S!h=HE  
    50% >       0.38667627                 tL]T_]z  
    20% >       0.46553746                 SAhk`_  
    10% >       0.50064115 +g&M@8XO&  
    ....... _K3;$2d|R  
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    这些数值都是MTF值
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    Criterion           : Geometric MTF average S&T at 30.0000 cycles per mm   !q 9PO  
    Mode                : Sensitivities upiYo(sN.  
    Sampling            : 2 oZ>2Tt%  
    Nominal Criterion   : 0.54403234 B/I1<%Yk  
    Test Wavelength     : 0.6328 Lum5Va%0  
    #6@4c5{2=4  
    波长632.8nm 时 mtf 是 0.54403234  没达到0.6
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    谢谢。您说的“波长632.8nm 时 mtf 是 0.54403234  没达到0.6”这是一个评价标准吧? ^*b11 /7  
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    这个评价标准和我理想的设计结果的0.6有什么联系吗,另外这个 0.54403234  是这么来的?
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    你试试把原来的系统波长改成632.8nm,看看Geometric MTF    30 per mm 的mtf值是不是0.54403234
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    啊...这倒也是。换了波长的确可能有所变化。另外还有就是如果现在百分比太低,我是否应该考虑把最敏感的公差再紧一些,就会好了?
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    恩,多多尝试