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    只看楼主 倒序阅读 楼主  发表于: 2011-06-21
    我现在在初学zemax的公差分析,找了一个双胶合透镜 Gm[XnUR7V  
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    然后添加了默认公差分析,基本没变 (&1 56 5  
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    然后运行分析的结果如下: f_z]kA +H  
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    Analysis of Tolerances }BWT21'-Y  
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    File : E:\光学设计资料\zemax练习\f500.ZMX PQrc#dfc |  
    Title: k!V@Q!>,  
    Date : TUE JUN 21 2011 eWr2UXv$  
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    Units are Millimeters. BUUc9&f3o  
    All changes are computed using linear differences. Ae* 6&R4  
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    Paraxial Focus compensation only. i|xC#hV  
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    WARNING: Solves should be removed prior to tolerancing. %-L T56T  
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    Mnemonics: 0|| 5 r#  
    TFRN: Tolerance on curvature in fringes. [ZL<Q  
    TTHI: Tolerance on thickness. 1fTf+P  
    TSDX: Tolerance on surface decentering in x. ;!B,P-Z"g  
    TSDY: Tolerance on surface decentering in y. UHS "{%  
    TSTX: Tolerance on surface tilt in x (degrees). G%>{Z?!B  
    TSTY: Tolerance on surface tilt in y (degrees). > .K  
    TIRR: Tolerance on irregularity (fringes). ! u9LZ  
    TIND: Tolerance on Nd index of refraction. y\=^pla  
    TEDX: Tolerance on element decentering in x. SNC)cq+{  
    TEDY: Tolerance on element decentering in y. ~!P&LZ  
    TETX: Tolerance on element tilt in x (degrees). xHe "c<  
    TETY: Tolerance on element tilt in y (degrees). y?UB?2 VN  
    _FkH;MGWS  
    WARNING: RAY AIMING IS OFF. Very loose tolerances may not be computed accurately. #i=m%>zjN  
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    WARNING: Boundary constraints on compensators will be ignored. Y/f8rN  
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    Criterion           : Geometric MTF average S&T at 30.0000 cycles per mm oK3PA  
    Mode                : Sensitivities -0+h&CO  
    Sampling            : 2 IeAi'  
    Nominal Criterion   : 0.54403234 -YS9u [   
    Test Wavelength     : 0.6328 W^i[7 r  
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    Fields: XY Symmetric Angle in degrees h*?]A  
    #      X-Field      Y-Field       Weight    VDX    VDY    VCX    VCY q! WiX|P  
    1   0.000E+000   0.000E+000   1.000E+000  0.000  0.000  0.000  0.000 B.}j1 Bb  
    NCVhWD21|  
    Sensitivity Analysis: ++BQ==@  
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                     |----------------- Minimum ----------------| |----------------- Maximum ----------------| 0GQKM~|H  
    Type                      Value      Criterion        Change          Value      Criterion        Change Pu(kCH{  
    Fringe tolerance on surface 1 S<g~VK!Tt  
    TFRN   1            -1.00000000     0.54257256    -0.00145977     1.00000000     0.54548607     0.00145374 Y?%=6S  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.000000                            0.000000 bp'\nso/  
    Fringe tolerance on surface 2 k/i&e~! \  
    TFRN   2            -1.00000000     0.54177471    -0.00225762     1.00000000     0.54627463     0.00224230 `We?j7O  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 @=K*gbq5  
    Fringe tolerance on surface 3 @DKph!c r  
    TFRN   3            -1.00000000     0.54779866     0.00376632     1.00000000     0.54022572    -0.00380662 6%MM)Vj+u  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.000000                            0.000000 |eksvO'~  
    Thickness tolerance on surface 1 K/$5SN1  
    TTHI   1   3        -0.20000000     0.54321462    -0.00081772     0.20000000     0.54484759     0.00081525 _pkmHj(  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 Ue=1NnRDkA  
    Thickness tolerance on surface 2 =WK's8FB;8  
    TTHI   2   3        -0.20000000     0.54478712     0.00075478     0.20000000     0.54327558    -0.00075675 Sc:)H2k`$  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                           -0.000000 S~B{G T\M  
    Decenter X tolerance on surfaces 1 through 3 !T.yv5ge'  
    TEDX   1   3        -0.20000000     0.54401464   -1.7700E-005     0.20000000     0.54401464   -1.7700E-005 bQHJ}aCi  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 Y ^5RM  
    Decenter Y tolerance on surfaces 1 through 3 [x0*x~1B  
    TEDY   1   3        -0.20000000     0.54401464   -1.7700E-005     0.20000000     0.54401464   -1.7700E-005 ufN`=IJ%  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 L(}/W~En  
    Tilt X tolerance on surfaces 1 through 3 (degrees) {w ]L'0ES[  
    TETX   1   3        -0.20000000     0.54897548     0.00494314     0.20000000     0.54897548     0.00494314 LAuaowE\v  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 !Hj 7|5  
    Tilt Y tolerance on surfaces 1 through 3 (degrees) " t,ZO  
    TETY   1   3        -0.20000000     0.54897548     0.00494314     0.20000000     0.54897548     0.00494314 X]s="^  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 <W/YC 2b  
    Decenter X tolerance on surface 1 AbB+<0  
    TSDX   1            -0.20000000     0.53999563    -0.00403671     0.20000000     0.53999563    -0.00403671 o),@I#fM  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 0+k=gO  
    Decenter Y tolerance on surface 1 +<3e@s&  
    TSDY   1            -0.20000000     0.53999563    -0.00403671     0.20000000     0.53999563    -0.00403671 :JK+V2B$H  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 Dk}txw}#  
    Tilt X tolerance on surface (degrees) 1 )H{OqZZYD  
    TSTX   1            -0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851     0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851 BX2}ar  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 .]/k#Hv  
    Tilt Y tolerance on surface (degrees) 1 %V92q0XW  
    TSTY   1            -0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851     0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851 W7w*VD|  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 Fyc":{Jd  
    Decenter X tolerance on surface 2 V5+|H1=  
    TSDX   2            -0.20000000     0.51705427    -0.02697807     0.20000000     0.51705427    -0.02697807 x";4)u=  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 ~zFwSF  
    Decenter Y tolerance on surface 2 =g)SZK  
    TSDY   2            -0.20000000     0.51705427    -0.02697807     0.20000000     0.51705427    -0.02697807 UZo[]$"Q`  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 "F?p Y@4  
    Tilt X tolerance on surface (degrees) 2 ]T%wRd5&-  
    TSTX   2            -0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324     0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324 *a` _,Q{x  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 *7C l1o  
    Tilt Y tolerance on surface (degrees) 2 ~uuM0POo  
    TSTY   2            -0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324     0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324 )_K:A(V>  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 2lxA/.f  
    Decenter X tolerance on surface 3 [k=LX+w@  
    TSDX   3            -0.20000000     0.53419039    -0.00984195     0.20000000     0.53419039    -0.00984195 <H|]^An!H  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 >ajcfG .k(  
    Decenter Y tolerance on surface 3 D;Y2yc[v  
    TSDY   3            -0.20000000     0.53419039    -0.00984195     0.20000000     0.53419039    -0.00984195 D\  P-|}  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 -_f-j  
    Tilt X tolerance on surface (degrees) 3 fAD {sg  
    TSTX   3            -0.20000000     0.42861670    -0.11541563     0.20000000     0.42861670    -0.11541563 XW*d\vDun  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 aK8X,1g%)  
    Tilt Y tolerance on surface (degrees) 3 c/,B?  
    TSTY   3            -0.20000000     0.42861670    -0.11541563     0.20000000     0.42861670    -0.11541563 P]4@|u;=6[  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 l(~NpT{=V  
    Irregularity of surface 1 in fringes :D:J_{HJ  
    TIRR   1            -0.20000000     0.50973587    -0.03429647     0.20000000     0.57333868     0.02930634 p9eTrFDy?  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 Wbi12{C  
    Irregularity of surface 2 in fringes XpdjWLO]C<  
    TIRR   2            -0.20000000     0.53400904    -0.01002330     0.20000000     0.55360281     0.00957047 Jg@eGs\*  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 dbfI!4  
    Irregularity of surface 3 in fringes kj`h{Wc[)  
    TIRR   3            -0.20000000     0.58078982     0.03675748     0.20000000     0.49904394    -0.04498840 F ZfhiIf  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 vcSb:('  
    Index tolerance on surface 1 xgWVxX^)  
    TIND   1            -0.00100000     0.52606778    -0.01796456     0.00100000     0.56121811     0.01718578 LP} j0)n  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 r,ep{ p  
    Index tolerance on surface 2 _j]vR  
    TIND   2            -0.00100000     0.55639086     0.01235852     0.00100000     0.53126361    -0.01276872 =@.5J'!  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                           -0.000000 hD7Lgi-N)W  
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    Worst offenders: V.w!]{xm  
    Type                      Value      Criterion        Change 5,du2  
    TSTY   2            -0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324 jo"zd b  
    TSTY   2             0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324 uD:tT ~  
    TSTX   2            -0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324 !H`uN  
    TSTX   2             0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324 K}Lu1:~  
    TSTY   1            -0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851 }1YQ?:@  
    TSTY   1             0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851 @&2# kO~=  
    TSTX   1            -0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851 sB<y(}u  
    TSTX   1             0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851 @*JS[w$1  
    TSTY   3            -0.20000000     0.42861670    -0.11541563 DC=XPn/V  
    TSTY   3             0.20000000     0.42861670    -0.11541563 6"V86b0)h}  
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    Estimated Performance Changes based upon Root-Sum-Square method: } BnPNc[I  
    Nominal MTF                 :     0.54403234 {Lvta4}7(  
    Estimated change            :    -0.36299231 x-SYfvYY  
    Estimated MTF               :     0.18104003 BtKbX)R$J  
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    Compensator Statistics: g #[,4o;  
    Change in back focus: j8ag}%  
    Minimum            :        -0.000000 nPjN\Es6  
    Maximum            :         0.000000 CK1gzIg>  
    Mean               :        -0.000000 8z* /J=n  
    Standard Deviation :         0.000000 f/g-b]0  
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    Monte Carlo Analysis: J\\o# -H  
    Number of trials: 20 ^vo]bq7  
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    Initial Statistics: Normal Distribution 3NgyF[c  
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      Trial       Criterion        Change G4)X~.Fy  
          1     0.42804416    -0.11598818 ]PZ\N~T  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.400171 \Gy+y`   
          2     0.54384387    -0.00018847 8[H)t Kf8  
    Change in Focus                :       1.018470 E7|P\^}m(f  
          3     0.44510003    -0.09893230 tCr? !Y~  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.601922 axdRV1+s  
          4     0.18154684    -0.36248550 yUu+68Z6  
    Change in Focus                :       0.920681 jLreN#:9  
          5     0.28665820    -0.25737414 %o#|zaK  
    Change in Focus                :       1.253875 Y>PC>  
          6     0.21263372    -0.33139862 Nrk/_0^  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.903878 D,, x<JG|  
          7     0.40051424    -0.14351809 R5MY\^H/A  
    Change in Focus                :      -1.354815 b "5WsJ:'#  
          8     0.48754161    -0.05649072 "9!CsloWhz  
    Change in Focus                :       0.215922 0vcM+}rw  
          9     0.40357468    -0.14045766 nh%Q";  
    Change in Focus                :       0.281783 U,GY']J  
         10     0.26315315    -0.28087919 |&H(skF_  
    Change in Focus                :      -1.048393 r#/Bz5Jb*  
         11     0.26120585    -0.28282649 of?0 y-LT%  
    Change in Focus                :       1.017611 *]* D^'  
         12     0.24033815    -0.30369419 Be2yS]U  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.109292 d]QCk &XU  
         13     0.37164046    -0.17239188 O@? *5  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.692430 +v"%@lC};  
         14     0.48597489    -0.05805744 lcEin*Oc  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.662040 T>pz?e^5&  
         15     0.21462327    -0.32940907 3dC ;B@  
    Change in Focus                :       1.611296 Q)}z$h55  
         16     0.43378226    -0.11025008 1IV R4:a  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.640081 GYN Lyd)  
         17     0.39321881    -0.15081353 I xE }v%&  
    Change in Focus                :       0.914906 /S&8%fb  
         18     0.20692530    -0.33710703 {Qj7?}xW  
    Change in Focus                :       0.801607 hS +R /7  
         19     0.51374068    -0.03029165 ajALca4  
    Change in Focus                :       0.947293 E>O1dPZcM  
         20     0.38013374    -0.16389860 -87]$ ax  
    Change in Focus                :       0.667010 =hB0p^a  
    n ^_B0Rkv  
    Number of traceable Monte Carlo files generated: 20 dX5|A_Ex  
    ${)s ~[  
    Nominal     0.54403234 IRl(H_.  
    Best        0.54384387    Trial     2 $(eqZ<y  
    Worst       0.18154684    Trial     4 b#E!wMClS  
    Mean        0.35770970 { aq}Q|?/  
    Std Dev     0.11156454 MuQ'L=iJ  
    '7TT4~F  
    bcC+af0L  
    Compensator Statistics: V-TWC@Y"  
    Change in back focus: lT~A~O  
    Minimum            :        -1.354815 eFdN"8EW  
    Maximum            :         1.611296 "=\@ a=  
    Mean               :         0.161872 7H5t!yk|9  
    Standard Deviation :         0.869664 YUsMq3^&  
    7T}r]C.  
    90% >       0.20977951               j9/Ev]im|F  
    80% >       0.22748071               W05>\Rl  
    50% >       0.38667627               DX%D8atrr  
    20% >       0.46553746               \cRe,(?O  
    10% >       0.50064115                hz~jyH.h_  
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    End of Run. bjYaJtn  
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    这就有了些疑问,为什么我选择的补偿器是近轴焦点,而分析结果近轴焦点都不变化??应该是变得。另外最后的蒙特卡洛分析,只有10%的大于0.5(我用的是MTF作为评价方式),可是我设计的MTF如图 =Frbhh57  
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    是大于0.6左右的,难道我按照这个默认的公差来加工的话,只有10%的才可能大于0.5?那太低了啊,请问这该怎么进行进一步处理。或者之前哪有问题 u}~%9Pi  
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    只看该作者 1楼 发表于: 2011-06-21
    我又试了试,原来是得根据上面的结果不断修改公差,放松或者变紧,然后在做公差分析,不断提高蒙特卡罗的结果。但是比如就拿我这个来说,理想是达到30lp处>0.6,那么实际做蒙特卡罗公差分析时,百分之多少以上的MTF是合格的呢?
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    90% >       0.20977951                 QP?Deltp  
    80% >       0.22748071                 5Si\hk:o  
    50% >       0.38667627                 &G"r>,HU  
    20% >       0.46553746                 [Ifhh2  
    10% >       0.50064115 q T pvz  
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    最后这个数值是MTF值呢,还是MTF的公差? BLvI[b|3gn  
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    也就是说,这到底是有90%的产品MTF大于0.20977951还是90%的产品的MTF变化量大于0.20977951???   5@{+V!o,  
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    怎么没人啊,大家讨论讨论吗
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    没有人啊???
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    引用第2楼sansummer于2011-06-22 08:56发表的  : A*pihBo7  
    90% >       0.20977951                 b,a\`%m}  
    80% >       0.22748071                 F!>K8q  
    50% >       0.38667627                 LM'` U-/e$  
    20% >       0.46553746                 T , =ga  
    10% >       0.50064115 >*}qGk  
    ....... U8-9^}DBA  
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    这些数值都是MTF值
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    Criterion           : Geometric MTF average S&T at 30.0000 cycles per mm   h/TPd]  
    Mode                : Sensitivities .`'SL''c  
    Sampling            : 2 LVEVCpp@  
    Nominal Criterion   : 0.54403234 A[ iP s9  
    Test Wavelength     : 0.6328 W=EO=}l#  
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    波长632.8nm 时 mtf 是 0.54403234  没达到0.6
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    谢谢。您说的“波长632.8nm 时 mtf 是 0.54403234  没达到0.6”这是一个评价标准吧? ,){0y%c#y  
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    这个评价标准和我理想的设计结果的0.6有什么联系吗,另外这个 0.54403234  是这么来的?
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    你试试把原来的系统波长改成632.8nm,看看Geometric MTF    30 per mm 的mtf值是不是0.54403234
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    啊...这倒也是。换了波长的确可能有所变化。另外还有就是如果现在百分比太低,我是否应该考虑把最敏感的公差再紧一些,就会好了?
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    恩,多多尝试