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    只看楼主 倒序阅读 楼主  发表于: 2011-06-21
    我现在在初学zemax的公差分析,找了一个双胶合透镜 | W?[,|e  
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    然后添加了默认公差分析,基本没变 % 9YA^ri  
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    然后运行分析的结果如下: #J3zTG(:@  
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    Analysis of Tolerances PE7t_iSV  
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    File : E:\光学设计资料\zemax练习\f500.ZMX I,z"_[^G  
    Title: (T2<!&0 @  
    Date : TUE JUN 21 2011 xx}'l:}2 ]  
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    Units are Millimeters. jM;d>Gymx  
    All changes are computed using linear differences. OMxxI6h  
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    Paraxial Focus compensation only. $WM8tF?H  
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    WARNING: Solves should be removed prior to tolerancing. {!tOI  
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    Mnemonics: fIlIH  
    TFRN: Tolerance on curvature in fringes. wtUG^hV #_  
    TTHI: Tolerance on thickness. KD9Ca $-  
    TSDX: Tolerance on surface decentering in x. `O jvt-5}E  
    TSDY: Tolerance on surface decentering in y. I$F\(]"@  
    TSTX: Tolerance on surface tilt in x (degrees). 9cbB[c_.  
    TSTY: Tolerance on surface tilt in y (degrees). }K+\8em  
    TIRR: Tolerance on irregularity (fringes). tl2Lq0  
    TIND: Tolerance on Nd index of refraction. vkh;qPD  
    TEDX: Tolerance on element decentering in x. L7[X|zmy*x  
    TEDY: Tolerance on element decentering in y.  6.vNe  
    TETX: Tolerance on element tilt in x (degrees). 5M]6'X6I  
    TETY: Tolerance on element tilt in y (degrees). Q9nu"x %  
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    WARNING: RAY AIMING IS OFF. Very loose tolerances may not be computed accurately. "%Lmgy:~  
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    WARNING: Boundary constraints on compensators will be ignored. ud!r*E  
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    Criterion           : Geometric MTF average S&T at 30.0000 cycles per mm 79y'Ja+`j  
    Mode                : Sensitivities AZ}%MA; q  
    Sampling            : 2 rjt O`Mt`  
    Nominal Criterion   : 0.54403234 6pS Rum  
    Test Wavelength     : 0.6328 ~91uk3ST?  
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    Fields: XY Symmetric Angle in degrees _6| /P7"  
    #      X-Field      Y-Field       Weight    VDX    VDY    VCX    VCY 9eksCxFg  
    1   0.000E+000   0.000E+000   1.000E+000  0.000  0.000  0.000  0.000 ?T~3B]R  
    ]eORw $f  
    Sensitivity Analysis: \"{/yjO|4  
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                     |----------------- Minimum ----------------| |----------------- Maximum ----------------| 1Q3%!~<\s  
    Type                      Value      Criterion        Change          Value      Criterion        Change _dz:\v  
    Fringe tolerance on surface 1 dVK@Fgo  
    TFRN   1            -1.00000000     0.54257256    -0.00145977     1.00000000     0.54548607     0.00145374 2I9{+>k  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.000000                            0.000000 -{.h\  
    Fringe tolerance on surface 2 V:$[~)k8  
    TFRN   2            -1.00000000     0.54177471    -0.00225762     1.00000000     0.54627463     0.00224230 a^(S!I  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 b'i%B9yU:%  
    Fringe tolerance on surface 3 #IcT @(  
    TFRN   3            -1.00000000     0.54779866     0.00376632     1.00000000     0.54022572    -0.00380662 {5?!`<fF  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.000000                            0.000000 c|8KT  
    Thickness tolerance on surface 1 L+`}euu5  
    TTHI   1   3        -0.20000000     0.54321462    -0.00081772     0.20000000     0.54484759     0.00081525 5LnB]dW  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 Y>c5:F;  
    Thickness tolerance on surface 2 PLl x~A  
    TTHI   2   3        -0.20000000     0.54478712     0.00075478     0.20000000     0.54327558    -0.00075675 GhaAvyN  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                           -0.000000 C&qDvvk  
    Decenter X tolerance on surfaces 1 through 3 X*D5y8<  
    TEDX   1   3        -0.20000000     0.54401464   -1.7700E-005     0.20000000     0.54401464   -1.7700E-005 ~6pCOS}  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 9;'>\ImI  
    Decenter Y tolerance on surfaces 1 through 3 #0#V$AA>  
    TEDY   1   3        -0.20000000     0.54401464   -1.7700E-005     0.20000000     0.54401464   -1.7700E-005 aa'0EU:  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 !dYX2!lvT  
    Tilt X tolerance on surfaces 1 through 3 (degrees) ]*t*/j;N  
    TETX   1   3        -0.20000000     0.54897548     0.00494314     0.20000000     0.54897548     0.00494314 u:p:*u_^I  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 ,(5dQ`hA0  
    Tilt Y tolerance on surfaces 1 through 3 (degrees) 70I4-[/z[d  
    TETY   1   3        -0.20000000     0.54897548     0.00494314     0.20000000     0.54897548     0.00494314 M<hs_8_*  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 w96j,rEC  
    Decenter X tolerance on surface 1 -b Ipmp?  
    TSDX   1            -0.20000000     0.53999563    -0.00403671     0.20000000     0.53999563    -0.00403671 RJ7/I/yD|  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 cviN$oL  
    Decenter Y tolerance on surface 1 9 ^=t@  
    TSDY   1            -0.20000000     0.53999563    -0.00403671     0.20000000     0.53999563    -0.00403671 FeincZ!M  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 8O}A/*1FJ  
    Tilt X tolerance on surface (degrees) 1 '3Y0D1`v  
    TSTX   1            -0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851     0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851 J/H#d')c  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 '8((;N|I^  
    Tilt Y tolerance on surface (degrees) 1 8M5!5Jzv  
    TSTY   1            -0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851     0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851 ()rx>?x5  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 #z1ch,*3;  
    Decenter X tolerance on surface 2 *U5> j#,  
    TSDX   2            -0.20000000     0.51705427    -0.02697807     0.20000000     0.51705427    -0.02697807 M2;(+8 b  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 x Jj8njuq4  
    Decenter Y tolerance on surface 2 <yb=!  
    TSDY   2            -0.20000000     0.51705427    -0.02697807     0.20000000     0.51705427    -0.02697807 EUYa =-  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 D[FfJcV'$  
    Tilt X tolerance on surface (degrees) 2 cnjj) c  
    TSTX   2            -0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324     0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324 [M zc^I&  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 b{ubp  
    Tilt Y tolerance on surface (degrees) 2 8Y;zs7Y  
    TSTY   2            -0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324     0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324 { ?1 mY"  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 S]e~)I gO  
    Decenter X tolerance on surface 3 2*UE&Gp  
    TSDX   3            -0.20000000     0.53419039    -0.00984195     0.20000000     0.53419039    -0.00984195 *X =f  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 S'H0nJ3  
    Decenter Y tolerance on surface 3 xaq=?3QOH  
    TSDY   3            -0.20000000     0.53419039    -0.00984195     0.20000000     0.53419039    -0.00984195 `U?H^,FVA  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 5)o-]S>  
    Tilt X tolerance on surface (degrees) 3 3K;b~xg`nw  
    TSTX   3            -0.20000000     0.42861670    -0.11541563     0.20000000     0.42861670    -0.11541563 *j|Tm7C  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 `Mh<S+/  
    Tilt Y tolerance on surface (degrees) 3 hU)f(L  
    TSTY   3            -0.20000000     0.42861670    -0.11541563     0.20000000     0.42861670    -0.11541563 ;V}FbWz^v6  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 Ar{=gENn  
    Irregularity of surface 1 in fringes 86) 3XE[ 5  
    TIRR   1            -0.20000000     0.50973587    -0.03429647     0.20000000     0.57333868     0.02930634 Ot:\h  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 =B 4gEWR  
    Irregularity of surface 2 in fringes 8aIf{(/k  
    TIRR   2            -0.20000000     0.53400904    -0.01002330     0.20000000     0.55360281     0.00957047 QW"6]  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 K5c7>I%k  
    Irregularity of surface 3 in fringes O|g!Y(  
    TIRR   3            -0.20000000     0.58078982     0.03675748     0.20000000     0.49904394    -0.04498840 F|ML$  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 C?c-V,  
    Index tolerance on surface 1 9j>sRE1  
    TIND   1            -0.00100000     0.52606778    -0.01796456     0.00100000     0.56121811     0.01718578 m^s2kB4A[  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 g>oYEFFJ  
    Index tolerance on surface 2 =)UiI3xHk  
    TIND   2            -0.00100000     0.55639086     0.01235852     0.00100000     0.53126361    -0.01276872  ,IvnNnl2  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                           -0.000000 oG_'<5Bv>  
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    Worst offenders: !JQ~r@j  
    Type                      Value      Criterion        Change LB ^^e"  
    TSTY   2            -0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324 !Z2n;.w  
    TSTY   2             0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324 9P >S[=  
    TSTX   2            -0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324 QNI|h;D  
    TSTX   2             0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324 z# ?w/NE  
    TSTY   1            -0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851 >wm$,%zk  
    TSTY   1             0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851 }Knq9cf  
    TSTX   1            -0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851 jW0z|jr  
    TSTX   1             0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851 ->25$5#  
    TSTY   3            -0.20000000     0.42861670    -0.11541563 3g "xm  
    TSTY   3             0.20000000     0.42861670    -0.11541563 5pyvs;As  
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    Estimated Performance Changes based upon Root-Sum-Square method: >-o:> 5  
    Nominal MTF                 :     0.54403234 `1v!sSR0R  
    Estimated change            :    -0.36299231 I; }%k;v6  
    Estimated MTF               :     0.18104003 d/zX%  
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    Compensator Statistics: 64j 4P 7  
    Change in back focus: C>;8`6_!gU  
    Minimum            :        -0.000000 iiDkk  
    Maximum            :         0.000000 PC7.+;1  
    Mean               :        -0.000000 kb\v}gfiD/  
    Standard Deviation :         0.000000 q9(}wvtr  
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    Monte Carlo Analysis: Ln%_8yth  
    Number of trials: 20 '>3RZ& O  
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    Initial Statistics: Normal Distribution S_;:iC]B  
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      Trial       Criterion        Change $^aXVy5p  
          1     0.42804416    -0.11598818 rBPxGBd4  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.400171 0P/LW|16  
          2     0.54384387    -0.00018847 Y9ce"*b  
    Change in Focus                :       1.018470 qNVw+U;2P  
          3     0.44510003    -0.09893230 WbzL!zLd!  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.601922 ,#;ahwU~s  
          4     0.18154684    -0.36248550 LVtQ^ 5>8  
    Change in Focus                :       0.920681 Sf:lN4  
          5     0.28665820    -0.25737414 _1%^ ibn  
    Change in Focus                :       1.253875 =YsTF T  
          6     0.21263372    -0.33139862 d~$t{46  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.903878 hs uJ;4}$q  
          7     0.40051424    -0.14351809 VQ 3&  
    Change in Focus                :      -1.354815 | N,nt@~  
          8     0.48754161    -0.05649072 L6 # d  
    Change in Focus                :       0.215922 sjkl? _  
          9     0.40357468    -0.14045766 P[oB'  
    Change in Focus                :       0.281783 3A1kH` X^q  
         10     0.26315315    -0.28087919 Bq8<FZr#!  
    Change in Focus                :      -1.048393 iW$i%`>  
         11     0.26120585    -0.28282649 ^Wz{su2  
    Change in Focus                :       1.017611 %6:2cR  
         12     0.24033815    -0.30369419 V$D d 7  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.109292 O]!DNN  
         13     0.37164046    -0.17239188 5X-{|r3q  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.692430 u)MA#p {  
         14     0.48597489    -0.05805744 Jev.o]|_,  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.662040 t\0JNi$2  
         15     0.21462327    -0.32940907 U]3JCZ{]0E  
    Change in Focus                :       1.611296 1S#bV} !  
         16     0.43378226    -0.11025008 5Ozj&Zq  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.640081 B ~GyS"  
         17     0.39321881    -0.15081353 %.Y`X(g6/  
    Change in Focus                :       0.914906 j* ?MFvwE  
         18     0.20692530    -0.33710703 KJSy7F  
    Change in Focus                :       0.801607 7w({ GZ  
         19     0.51374068    -0.03029165 gI{F"7fa=  
    Change in Focus                :       0.947293 *E6 p=  
         20     0.38013374    -0.16389860 x7>sy,c  
    Change in Focus                :       0.667010 ArM e[t0$  
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    Number of traceable Monte Carlo files generated: 20 4TV9t"Dk+c  
    -fn~y1  
    Nominal     0.54403234 Iqv 5lo .  
    Best        0.54384387    Trial     2 |Dli6KN  
    Worst       0.18154684    Trial     4 9r}} m0  
    Mean        0.35770970 K~G^jAk+  
    Std Dev     0.11156454 ~C+T|  
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    Compensator Statistics: v\u+=}r l  
    Change in back focus: 4Qs#ws])  
    Minimum            :        -1.354815 d4tVK0 ~  
    Maximum            :         1.611296 WOoVVjMM  
    Mean               :         0.161872 <#i'3TUR  
    Standard Deviation :         0.869664 vzPrG%Uu7g  
    %/p5C  
    90% >       0.20977951               W'yICt(#G  
    80% >       0.22748071               ZN/")  
    50% >       0.38667627               BZsxf'eN'  
    20% >       0.46553746               6zSN?0c  
    10% >       0.50064115                \WEC1+@  
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    End of Run. 14O/R3+  
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    这就有了些疑问,为什么我选择的补偿器是近轴焦点,而分析结果近轴焦点都不变化??应该是变得。另外最后的蒙特卡洛分析,只有10%的大于0.5(我用的是MTF作为评价方式),可是我设计的MTF如图 |/Z4lcI  
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    是大于0.6左右的,难道我按照这个默认的公差来加工的话,只有10%的才可能大于0.5?那太低了啊,请问这该怎么进行进一步处理。或者之前哪有问题 &3M He$  
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    只看该作者 1楼 发表于: 2011-06-21
    我又试了试,原来是得根据上面的结果不断修改公差,放松或者变紧,然后在做公差分析,不断提高蒙特卡罗的结果。但是比如就拿我这个来说,理想是达到30lp处>0.6,那么实际做蒙特卡罗公差分析时,百分之多少以上的MTF是合格的呢?
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    90% >       0.20977951                 BFY~::<b  
    80% >       0.22748071                 /W;;7k  
    50% >       0.38667627                 F+X3CB,f  
    20% >       0.46553746                 6%? NNEM  
    10% >       0.50064115 Zn/1uWO  
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    最后这个数值是MTF值呢,还是MTF的公差? =1D*K%  
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    也就是说,这到底是有90%的产品MTF大于0.20977951还是90%的产品的MTF变化量大于0.20977951???   8w$cj'  
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    怎么没人啊,大家讨论讨论吗
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    没有人啊???
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    引用第2楼sansummer于2011-06-22 08:56发表的  : IUzRE?Kzf  
    90% >       0.20977951                 `OduBUI]]  
    80% >       0.22748071                 i`E]gJ$  
    50% >       0.38667627                 9~a_^m/  
    20% >       0.46553746                 5^ pQ=Sgt  
    10% >       0.50064115 d8|:)7PSt  
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    这些数值都是MTF值
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    Criterion           : Geometric MTF average S&T at 30.0000 cycles per mm    c,x2   
    Mode                : Sensitivities u{8Wu;  
    Sampling            : 2 3&_(D)+  
    Nominal Criterion   : 0.54403234 nLYyS#  
    Test Wavelength     : 0.6328 B,}%1+*  
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    波长632.8nm 时 mtf 是 0.54403234  没达到0.6
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    谢谢。您说的“波长632.8nm 时 mtf 是 0.54403234  没达到0.6”这是一个评价标准吧? Xig%Q~oMp  
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    这个评价标准和我理想的设计结果的0.6有什么联系吗,另外这个 0.54403234  是这么来的?
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    你试试把原来的系统波长改成632.8nm,看看Geometric MTF    30 per mm 的mtf值是不是0.54403234
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    啊...这倒也是。换了波长的确可能有所变化。另外还有就是如果现在百分比太低,我是否应该考虑把最敏感的公差再紧一些,就会好了?
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    恩,多多尝试