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    只看楼主 倒序阅读 楼主  发表于: 2011-06-21
    我现在在初学zemax的公差分析,找了一个双胶合透镜 j.-VJo)   
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    然后添加了默认公差分析,基本没变 m>Ux`Gp+  
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    然后运行分析的结果如下: 9rj('F & 1  
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    Analysis of Tolerances c]Unbm^w  
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    File : E:\光学设计资料\zemax练习\f500.ZMX C@dGWAG  
    Title: KvFR8s  
    Date : TUE JUN 21 2011 ZW ye> ]  
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    Units are Millimeters. >7-y#SkXdo  
    All changes are computed using linear differences. P!+v:'P5f  
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    Paraxial Focus compensation only. !y vJpdsof  
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    WARNING: Solves should be removed prior to tolerancing. , p0KLU\-  
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    Mnemonics: QJ<[Zx  
    TFRN: Tolerance on curvature in fringes. 4UCwT1  
    TTHI: Tolerance on thickness. >_Uj?F:  
    TSDX: Tolerance on surface decentering in x. ko[TDh$T5  
    TSDY: Tolerance on surface decentering in y. PKtU:Eg  
    TSTX: Tolerance on surface tilt in x (degrees). { vfq  
    TSTY: Tolerance on surface tilt in y (degrees). CM 9P"-  
    TIRR: Tolerance on irregularity (fringes). ^tE_LL+ji|  
    TIND: Tolerance on Nd index of refraction. Qyj(L[KJ  
    TEDX: Tolerance on element decentering in x. .)ST[G]WK  
    TEDY: Tolerance on element decentering in y. iPU% /_>  
    TETX: Tolerance on element tilt in x (degrees). ?vu|o'$T,  
    TETY: Tolerance on element tilt in y (degrees). Zd<[=%d  
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    WARNING: RAY AIMING IS OFF. Very loose tolerances may not be computed accurately. VN|G5*  
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    WARNING: Boundary constraints on compensators will be ignored. 7Dl%UG]  
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    Criterion           : Geometric MTF average S&T at 30.0000 cycles per mm WFh@%j  
    Mode                : Sensitivities `` -k{C#F  
    Sampling            : 2 G.ud1,S#  
    Nominal Criterion   : 0.54403234 q z:]-A  
    Test Wavelength     : 0.6328 Iq,v  
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    Fields: XY Symmetric Angle in degrees .}p|`3$P  
    #      X-Field      Y-Field       Weight    VDX    VDY    VCX    VCY )VY10 R)$  
    1   0.000E+000   0.000E+000   1.000E+000  0.000  0.000  0.000  0.000 5+FLSk  
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    Sensitivity Analysis: t&f" jPu>  
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                     |----------------- Minimum ----------------| |----------------- Maximum ----------------| p"KV*D9b  
    Type                      Value      Criterion        Change          Value      Criterion        Change 8*)4"rS  
    Fringe tolerance on surface 1 !w=,p.?V=  
    TFRN   1            -1.00000000     0.54257256    -0.00145977     1.00000000     0.54548607     0.00145374 ]^ !}*  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.000000                            0.000000 hNVMz`r  
    Fringe tolerance on surface 2 k#jm7 +  
    TFRN   2            -1.00000000     0.54177471    -0.00225762     1.00000000     0.54627463     0.00224230 ?360SQ<  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 #ko6L3Pi  
    Fringe tolerance on surface 3 96)v#B?p  
    TFRN   3            -1.00000000     0.54779866     0.00376632     1.00000000     0.54022572    -0.00380662 -$ali[  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.000000                            0.000000 @H4wHlb  
    Thickness tolerance on surface 1 S~|tfJpL  
    TTHI   1   3        -0.20000000     0.54321462    -0.00081772     0.20000000     0.54484759     0.00081525 hg#c[sZL  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 +I.v!P!^  
    Thickness tolerance on surface 2 t[q3 {-  
    TTHI   2   3        -0.20000000     0.54478712     0.00075478     0.20000000     0.54327558    -0.00075675 s[Gswd  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                           -0.000000 HSql)iT  
    Decenter X tolerance on surfaces 1 through 3 ]0YDb~UB  
    TEDX   1   3        -0.20000000     0.54401464   -1.7700E-005     0.20000000     0.54401464   -1.7700E-005 hG~Uz   
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 (k#t }B[  
    Decenter Y tolerance on surfaces 1 through 3 %Y 2G  
    TEDY   1   3        -0.20000000     0.54401464   -1.7700E-005     0.20000000     0.54401464   -1.7700E-005 D9G0k[D,  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 n531rkK-   
    Tilt X tolerance on surfaces 1 through 3 (degrees) (ic@3:xR  
    TETX   1   3        -0.20000000     0.54897548     0.00494314     0.20000000     0.54897548     0.00494314 5E.vje{U;  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 Q6|@N~UeZ  
    Tilt Y tolerance on surfaces 1 through 3 (degrees) q!@c_o  
    TETY   1   3        -0.20000000     0.54897548     0.00494314     0.20000000     0.54897548     0.00494314 X$PS(_M  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 ]eD[4Y\#t  
    Decenter X tolerance on surface 1 \aB&{`iG  
    TSDX   1            -0.20000000     0.53999563    -0.00403671     0.20000000     0.53999563    -0.00403671 ja:\W\xhJ  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 YOlH*cZtg  
    Decenter Y tolerance on surface 1 v<`$bvv?  
    TSDY   1            -0.20000000     0.53999563    -0.00403671     0.20000000     0.53999563    -0.00403671 5Ny0b|+p  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 tB !|p6  
    Tilt X tolerance on surface (degrees) 1 0pCDE s  
    TSTX   1            -0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851     0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851 Ul9b.`6  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 ]ci RiMkT(  
    Tilt Y tolerance on surface (degrees) 1 xNx`J@xt$  
    TSTY   1            -0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851     0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851 E~qK&7+  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 [@zkv)D6  
    Decenter X tolerance on surface 2 {YfYIt=.  
    TSDX   2            -0.20000000     0.51705427    -0.02697807     0.20000000     0.51705427    -0.02697807 wb@]>MJ}[s  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 |:}L<9Sq  
    Decenter Y tolerance on surface 2 + p'\(Z(  
    TSDY   2            -0.20000000     0.51705427    -0.02697807     0.20000000     0.51705427    -0.02697807 hPS/CgLq  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 `} ZL'\G  
    Tilt X tolerance on surface (degrees) 2 m9uUDq#GJ  
    TSTX   2            -0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324     0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324 %"{?[!C ?  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 9/^d~ ZO  
    Tilt Y tolerance on surface (degrees) 2 gMCy$+?  
    TSTY   2            -0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324     0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324 ?!rU |D  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 "^!j5fZ  
    Decenter X tolerance on surface 3 B piEAwh  
    TSDX   3            -0.20000000     0.53419039    -0.00984195     0.20000000     0.53419039    -0.00984195 [10$a(g\x  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 "NlRSc#  
    Decenter Y tolerance on surface 3 ;\1b{-' l  
    TSDY   3            -0.20000000     0.53419039    -0.00984195     0.20000000     0.53419039    -0.00984195 @RQ+JYQi  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 @i\7k(9:A  
    Tilt X tolerance on surface (degrees) 3 x={kjym L  
    TSTX   3            -0.20000000     0.42861670    -0.11541563     0.20000000     0.42861670    -0.11541563 5N Fq7&rJ6  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 Un~]Q?w  
    Tilt Y tolerance on surface (degrees) 3 zCyR<as7  
    TSTY   3            -0.20000000     0.42861670    -0.11541563     0.20000000     0.42861670    -0.11541563 }D(DU5r  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 ,CN#co  
    Irregularity of surface 1 in fringes ya;@<b  
    TIRR   1            -0.20000000     0.50973587    -0.03429647     0.20000000     0.57333868     0.02930634 9j9Y Q2  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 % 1OC#&  
    Irregularity of surface 2 in fringes aS2a_!f  
    TIRR   2            -0.20000000     0.53400904    -0.01002330     0.20000000     0.55360281     0.00957047 rE9Ta8j6  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 uT#Acg  
    Irregularity of surface 3 in fringes se }pdL}  
    TIRR   3            -0.20000000     0.58078982     0.03675748     0.20000000     0.49904394    -0.04498840 T,A!5V>cX  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 3KB| NS  
    Index tolerance on surface 1 "Wxo[I  
    TIND   1            -0.00100000     0.52606778    -0.01796456     0.00100000     0.56121811     0.01718578 ?]759,Q3L  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 JvT %R`i  
    Index tolerance on surface 2 9@JlaY)0  
    TIND   2            -0.00100000     0.55639086     0.01235852     0.00100000     0.53126361    -0.01276872 I=Gr^\x=  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                           -0.000000 Zjw!In|vC  
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    Worst offenders: >B@i E  
    Type                      Value      Criterion        Change &E} I  
    TSTY   2            -0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324 721{Ga4~S  
    TSTY   2             0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324 ))8Emk^Q{  
    TSTX   2            -0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324 = E##},N"  
    TSTX   2             0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324 gNG0k$nP  
    TSTY   1            -0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851 7uWJ6Wk  
    TSTY   1             0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851 "TEBByO'  
    TSTX   1            -0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851 JI28O8  
    TSTX   1             0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851 Cb4d|yiS8  
    TSTY   3            -0.20000000     0.42861670    -0.11541563 m T>b ;  
    TSTY   3             0.20000000     0.42861670    -0.11541563 Krt$=:m|1  
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    Estimated Performance Changes based upon Root-Sum-Square method: k8!hvJ)?  
    Nominal MTF                 :     0.54403234 N[- %0  
    Estimated change            :    -0.36299231 3'|Uqf8  
    Estimated MTF               :     0.18104003 liBAJx  
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    Compensator Statistics: m~A[V,os  
    Change in back focus: gPF}aaB6  
    Minimum            :        -0.000000 Fr938q6^-  
    Maximum            :         0.000000 5 ]A$P\7~1  
    Mean               :        -0.000000 T)$ 6H}[c  
    Standard Deviation :         0.000000 we6+2  
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    Monte Carlo Analysis: ^T uP=q5?  
    Number of trials: 20 @]?? +f}#  
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    Initial Statistics: Normal Distribution Qivf|H619  
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      Trial       Criterion        Change #"3[f@|e  
          1     0.42804416    -0.11598818 ze#rYNvo/  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.400171 r&H=i  
          2     0.54384387    -0.00018847 c+)36/; X  
    Change in Focus                :       1.018470 Y3 Pz00x  
          3     0.44510003    -0.09893230 tal>b]B;  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.601922 M6o xtt4  
          4     0.18154684    -0.36248550 .b!OZ  
    Change in Focus                :       0.920681 UBUB/N Y  
          5     0.28665820    -0.25737414 j3sz*:  
    Change in Focus                :       1.253875 s0X/1Cq  
          6     0.21263372    -0.33139862 '7RR2f>V  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.903878 nm{'HH-4  
          7     0.40051424    -0.14351809 0{^l2?mgSb  
    Change in Focus                :      -1.354815 <=5,(a5g  
          8     0.48754161    -0.05649072 \UkNE5  
    Change in Focus                :       0.215922 e{q p!N1!  
          9     0.40357468    -0.14045766 Xy3g(x]  
    Change in Focus                :       0.281783 qY*%p  
         10     0.26315315    -0.28087919 t wa(M?  
    Change in Focus                :      -1.048393 ue^?/{OuT  
         11     0.26120585    -0.28282649 F1{?]>G  
    Change in Focus                :       1.017611 &UJ Ty'  
         12     0.24033815    -0.30369419 14@q$}sf  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.109292 )eTnR:=  
         13     0.37164046    -0.17239188 (IO \+  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.692430  9^b7jw  
         14     0.48597489    -0.05805744 |)|vG_  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.662040 @SF" )j|  
         15     0.21462327    -0.32940907 ?vL^:f["  
    Change in Focus                :       1.611296 5 ~ *'>y  
         16     0.43378226    -0.11025008 >h/)r6  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.640081 it/C y\f  
         17     0.39321881    -0.15081353 )|59FOWg  
    Change in Focus                :       0.914906 F| ,Vw{  
         18     0.20692530    -0.33710703 0s+rd&  
    Change in Focus                :       0.801607 ]`CKQ> o  
         19     0.51374068    -0.03029165 {=pP`HD0  
    Change in Focus                :       0.947293 bSeL"   
         20     0.38013374    -0.16389860 SoM ]2^  
    Change in Focus                :       0.667010 Wj  
    L&3Ar'  
    Number of traceable Monte Carlo files generated: 20 =oKPMmpCZ  
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    Nominal     0.54403234 };VGH/}&s  
    Best        0.54384387    Trial     2 LNyL>VHkK  
    Worst       0.18154684    Trial     4 ShsP]$Yp  
    Mean        0.35770970 iC5JU&l  
    Std Dev     0.11156454 v0H>iKh7  
    =E6i1x%j  
    &a2V-|G',  
    Compensator Statistics: ,pGCgOG#}c  
    Change in back focus: )n3bi QL_  
    Minimum            :        -1.354815 fDm}J  
    Maximum            :         1.611296 B 3,ig9  
    Mean               :         0.161872 _+ R_ms  
    Standard Deviation :         0.869664 ?[L0LL?ce  
    8en#PH }  
    90% >       0.20977951               !z4Hj{A_  
    80% >       0.22748071               0F;(_2V-  
    50% >       0.38667627               40l#'< y;  
    20% >       0.46553746               MRl*r K  
    10% >       0.50064115                Ik@Q@ T"  
    6&xW9' 6b:  
    End of Run. ]= QCCC  
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    这就有了些疑问,为什么我选择的补偿器是近轴焦点,而分析结果近轴焦点都不变化??应该是变得。另外最后的蒙特卡洛分析,只有10%的大于0.5(我用的是MTF作为评价方式),可是我设计的MTF如图 RZ,<D I  
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    是大于0.6左右的,难道我按照这个默认的公差来加工的话,只有10%的才可能大于0.5?那太低了啊,请问这该怎么进行进一步处理。或者之前哪有问题 +D{*L0$D"  
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    只看该作者 1楼 发表于: 2011-06-21
    我又试了试,原来是得根据上面的结果不断修改公差,放松或者变紧,然后在做公差分析,不断提高蒙特卡罗的结果。但是比如就拿我这个来说,理想是达到30lp处>0.6,那么实际做蒙特卡罗公差分析时,百分之多少以上的MTF是合格的呢?
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    90% >       0.20977951                 8!fAv$g0  
    80% >       0.22748071                 @aPu}Hi  
    50% >       0.38667627                 Vi -!E  
    20% >       0.46553746                 uc(yos  
    10% >       0.50064115 y8WXp_\  
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    最后这个数值是MTF值呢,还是MTF的公差? L!Zxc~  
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    也就是说,这到底是有90%的产品MTF大于0.20977951还是90%的产品的MTF变化量大于0.20977951???   ZzaW@6LJF  
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    怎么没人啊,大家讨论讨论吗
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    没有人啊???
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    引用第2楼sansummer于2011-06-22 08:56发表的  : &=O1Qg=K  
    90% >       0.20977951                 tce8*:rNH  
    80% >       0.22748071                 dV*rnpN  
    50% >       0.38667627                 eC:Q)%$%l  
    20% >       0.46553746                 &8L\FAY0%9  
    10% >       0.50064115 m|gd9m $,?  
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    这些数值都是MTF值
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    Criterion           : Geometric MTF average S&T at 30.0000 cycles per mm   u6d~d\  
    Mode                : Sensitivities K<(sqH  
    Sampling            : 2 ZJM^P'r.1c  
    Nominal Criterion   : 0.54403234 k= 1+mG  
    Test Wavelength     : 0.6328 <7) 6*u  
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    波长632.8nm 时 mtf 是 0.54403234  没达到0.6
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    谢谢。您说的“波长632.8nm 时 mtf 是 0.54403234  没达到0.6”这是一个评价标准吧? OUMr}~/  
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    这个评价标准和我理想的设计结果的0.6有什么联系吗,另外这个 0.54403234  是这么来的?
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    你试试把原来的系统波长改成632.8nm,看看Geometric MTF    30 per mm 的mtf值是不是0.54403234
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    啊...这倒也是。换了波长的确可能有所变化。另外还有就是如果现在百分比太低,我是否应该考虑把最敏感的公差再紧一些,就会好了?
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