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    只看楼主 倒序阅读 楼主  发表于: 2011-06-21
    我现在在初学zemax的公差分析,找了一个双胶合透镜 95DEuReKi  
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    然后添加了默认公差分析,基本没变 &W `xZyb3  
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    然后运行分析的结果如下: lame/B&nc  
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    Analysis of Tolerances ?KT{H( rU  
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    File : E:\光学设计资料\zemax练习\f500.ZMX \P\Z<z7jy  
    Title: qnm_#!&uHT  
    Date : TUE JUN 21 2011 JAbUK[:K  
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    Units are Millimeters. 1MelHW  
    All changes are computed using linear differences. t=_^$M,yr  
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    Paraxial Focus compensation only. ">A<%5F2  
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    WARNING: Solves should be removed prior to tolerancing. &&ioGy}1  
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    Mnemonics: n:j'0WW  
    TFRN: Tolerance on curvature in fringes. _Hb;)9y  
    TTHI: Tolerance on thickness. =TB_|`5;j  
    TSDX: Tolerance on surface decentering in x. E-LkP;  
    TSDY: Tolerance on surface decentering in y. !iXRt")  
    TSTX: Tolerance on surface tilt in x (degrees). 3f;=#|l  
    TSTY: Tolerance on surface tilt in y (degrees). 3;nOm =I  
    TIRR: Tolerance on irregularity (fringes). -@TY8#O#-  
    TIND: Tolerance on Nd index of refraction. jW/WG tz  
    TEDX: Tolerance on element decentering in x. UK`A:N2[  
    TEDY: Tolerance on element decentering in y. +`y(S}Z  
    TETX: Tolerance on element tilt in x (degrees). 1/_g36\l$  
    TETY: Tolerance on element tilt in y (degrees). z^Q'GBoBA  
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    WARNING: RAY AIMING IS OFF. Very loose tolerances may not be computed accurately. m 0HK1'  
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    WARNING: Boundary constraints on compensators will be ignored. Dc9uq5l  
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    Criterion           : Geometric MTF average S&T at 30.0000 cycles per mm tRjv  -  
    Mode                : Sensitivities Daf|.5>(@  
    Sampling            : 2 UBvp3 2p  
    Nominal Criterion   : 0.54403234 t;O)   
    Test Wavelength     : 0.6328 K`*GZ+b|`  
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    Fields: XY Symmetric Angle in degrees %Ymi,o>  
    #      X-Field      Y-Field       Weight    VDX    VDY    VCX    VCY ~o}:!y  
    1   0.000E+000   0.000E+000   1.000E+000  0.000  0.000  0.000  0.000 )XI[hVUA  
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    Sensitivity Analysis: vEv kC  
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                     |----------------- Minimum ----------------| |----------------- Maximum ----------------| gt kV=V  
    Type                      Value      Criterion        Change          Value      Criterion        Change "~KDm(D  
    Fringe tolerance on surface 1 XcR=4q|7  
    TFRN   1            -1.00000000     0.54257256    -0.00145977     1.00000000     0.54548607     0.00145374 X+vKY  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.000000                            0.000000 U ?[ (  
    Fringe tolerance on surface 2 W/'1ftn?D  
    TFRN   2            -1.00000000     0.54177471    -0.00225762     1.00000000     0.54627463     0.00224230 *_V+K  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 ]ua3I}_B6v  
    Fringe tolerance on surface 3 ]HKt7 %,  
    TFRN   3            -1.00000000     0.54779866     0.00376632     1.00000000     0.54022572    -0.00380662 ?d')#WnC  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.000000                            0.000000 (qn=BP I  
    Thickness tolerance on surface 1 o |$D|E  
    TTHI   1   3        -0.20000000     0.54321462    -0.00081772     0.20000000     0.54484759     0.00081525 d)%WaM%V  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 +{UY9_~\3  
    Thickness tolerance on surface 2 r" H::A  
    TTHI   2   3        -0.20000000     0.54478712     0.00075478     0.20000000     0.54327558    -0.00075675 xd Z$|{,  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                           -0.000000 /$^Tou/v  
    Decenter X tolerance on surfaces 1 through 3 I{Du/"r#  
    TEDX   1   3        -0.20000000     0.54401464   -1.7700E-005     0.20000000     0.54401464   -1.7700E-005 F)3+IuY  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 '/ Aq2  
    Decenter Y tolerance on surfaces 1 through 3 An2 >]\L  
    TEDY   1   3        -0.20000000     0.54401464   -1.7700E-005     0.20000000     0.54401464   -1.7700E-005 {!,K[QwcI  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 VKa+[  
    Tilt X tolerance on surfaces 1 through 3 (degrees) x}G:n[B7_V  
    TETX   1   3        -0.20000000     0.54897548     0.00494314     0.20000000     0.54897548     0.00494314 "t|)Kl  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 >?g@Nt8  
    Tilt Y tolerance on surfaces 1 through 3 (degrees) *ug~LK5Y.  
    TETY   1   3        -0.20000000     0.54897548     0.00494314     0.20000000     0.54897548     0.00494314 O&!R7T  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 CmEqo;Is  
    Decenter X tolerance on surface 1 J[/WBVFDf  
    TSDX   1            -0.20000000     0.53999563    -0.00403671     0.20000000     0.53999563    -0.00403671 xAm tm"  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 8SRR)O[)}  
    Decenter Y tolerance on surface 1 41 F;X{Br  
    TSDY   1            -0.20000000     0.53999563    -0.00403671     0.20000000     0.53999563    -0.00403671 {C |R@S  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 5xH=w:  
    Tilt X tolerance on surface (degrees) 1 ~IhAO}1  
    TSTX   1            -0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851     0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851 zs$r>rlO  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 M7#!Y=  
    Tilt Y tolerance on surface (degrees) 1 Vl.,e1)6  
    TSTY   1            -0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851     0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851 C'R9Nn'  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 jAJ='|[X\  
    Decenter X tolerance on surface 2 I}f`iBG  
    TSDX   2            -0.20000000     0.51705427    -0.02697807     0.20000000     0.51705427    -0.02697807 :{u`qi  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 c~0kZA6  
    Decenter Y tolerance on surface 2 xGs}hVlZiC  
    TSDY   2            -0.20000000     0.51705427    -0.02697807     0.20000000     0.51705427    -0.02697807 &V4Zm n?UU  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 ^*.[b  
    Tilt X tolerance on surface (degrees) 2 A?R`~*Q5  
    TSTX   2            -0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324     0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324 2 6#p,P  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 Y ^^4n$  
    Tilt Y tolerance on surface (degrees) 2 {FI zoR"  
    TSTY   2            -0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324     0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324 P&`%VW3E  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 i>M%)HN  
    Decenter X tolerance on surface 3 c5]Xqq,  
    TSDX   3            -0.20000000     0.53419039    -0.00984195     0.20000000     0.53419039    -0.00984195 ?Y"%BS+pt  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 0C4eer+D  
    Decenter Y tolerance on surface 3 uq5?t  
    TSDY   3            -0.20000000     0.53419039    -0.00984195     0.20000000     0.53419039    -0.00984195 XgxE M1(  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 _CD~5EA:  
    Tilt X tolerance on surface (degrees) 3 w8lrpbLh  
    TSTX   3            -0.20000000     0.42861670    -0.11541563     0.20000000     0.42861670    -0.11541563 5 -i,Tx&:  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 G ;j1zs  
    Tilt Y tolerance on surface (degrees) 3 }M4dze  
    TSTY   3            -0.20000000     0.42861670    -0.11541563     0.20000000     0.42861670    -0.11541563 A6(Do]M  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 @O"7@%nu  
    Irregularity of surface 1 in fringes uFr12ZFgK  
    TIRR   1            -0.20000000     0.50973587    -0.03429647     0.20000000     0.57333868     0.02930634 {-A|f  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 vQrxx  
    Irregularity of surface 2 in fringes >n7h%c  
    TIRR   2            -0.20000000     0.53400904    -0.01002330     0.20000000     0.55360281     0.00957047 K0w}l" )A  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 3.W[]zH/u  
    Irregularity of surface 3 in fringes !}Xoqamm  
    TIRR   3            -0.20000000     0.58078982     0.03675748     0.20000000     0.49904394    -0.04498840 u\LNJo| B  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 PUQ",;&y1  
    Index tolerance on surface 1 FjCGD4x1N  
    TIND   1            -0.00100000     0.52606778    -0.01796456     0.00100000     0.56121811     0.01718578 .7Mf(1:  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 )>@S8v,(  
    Index tolerance on surface 2 o z*;q]  
    TIND   2            -0.00100000     0.55639086     0.01235852     0.00100000     0.53126361    -0.01276872 9NTNulD>P  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                           -0.000000 ; Z:[LJd  
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    Worst offenders: = l(euBb  
    Type                      Value      Criterion        Change d(IJ-qJ N  
    TSTY   2            -0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324 nJI2IPZ  
    TSTY   2             0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324 rrL.Y&DTK  
    TSTX   2            -0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324 _[rFnyC+0V  
    TSTX   2             0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324 ?]><#[?'L  
    TSTY   1            -0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851  IuY9Q8  
    TSTY   1             0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851 Nu7>G  
    TSTX   1            -0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851 OIK x:&uIk  
    TSTX   1             0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851 TcZ.5Oe6h#  
    TSTY   3            -0.20000000     0.42861670    -0.11541563 XG|N$~N+2  
    TSTY   3             0.20000000     0.42861670    -0.11541563 p]L]=-(qI  
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    Estimated Performance Changes based upon Root-Sum-Square method: Y`~B> J  
    Nominal MTF                 :     0.54403234 h,c*:  
    Estimated change            :    -0.36299231 Kq[4I[+R  
    Estimated MTF               :     0.18104003 "_/ih1z]  
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    Compensator Statistics: jG>W+lq  
    Change in back focus: `W86]ut[  
    Minimum            :        -0.000000 GDSV:]hL  
    Maximum            :         0.000000 !hVbx#bXl  
    Mean               :        -0.000000 Snk+ZQ-  
    Standard Deviation :         0.000000 $0$sM/%  
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    Monte Carlo Analysis: ?^VPO%  
    Number of trials: 20 6Vnq|;W3Zv  
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    Initial Statistics: Normal Distribution 3sr_V~cZ9  
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      Trial       Criterion        Change qyM/p.mP  
          1     0.42804416    -0.11598818 6R45+<.  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.400171 5x+]uABE  
          2     0.54384387    -0.00018847 h0<PQZJ  
    Change in Focus                :       1.018470 i~h@}0WR"  
          3     0.44510003    -0.09893230 <Y k i8  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.601922 X['9;1Xr  
          4     0.18154684    -0.36248550 1AAyzAP9`  
    Change in Focus                :       0.920681 ]5'$EAsuW  
          5     0.28665820    -0.25737414 ~N!HxQ  
    Change in Focus                :       1.253875 Au,oX2$  
          6     0.21263372    -0.33139862 m* m),mZ"  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.903878 '3S~QN  
          7     0.40051424    -0.14351809 ^fsMfB  
    Change in Focus                :      -1.354815 d?7?tL2  
          8     0.48754161    -0.05649072 %:aXEjm@  
    Change in Focus                :       0.215922 ^;EhKG  
          9     0.40357468    -0.14045766 { b$"SIg1E  
    Change in Focus                :       0.281783 e |Ri  
         10     0.26315315    -0.28087919 T^ktfg Xq  
    Change in Focus                :      -1.048393 -;9 }P  
         11     0.26120585    -0.28282649 b,Wm]N  
    Change in Focus                :       1.017611 u%C oo  
         12     0.24033815    -0.30369419 ujV{AF`JfB  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.109292 r *K  
         13     0.37164046    -0.17239188 @jn&Wf?  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.692430 LGt>=|=bj  
         14     0.48597489    -0.05805744 ~&RTLr#\*M  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.662040 *I 1H  
         15     0.21462327    -0.32940907 _)45G"M  
    Change in Focus                :       1.611296 sqKx?r72  
         16     0.43378226    -0.11025008 L('1NN 2  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.640081 DMUirA;  
         17     0.39321881    -0.15081353 [rx9gOOa&  
    Change in Focus                :       0.914906 _V$'nz#>e  
         18     0.20692530    -0.33710703 7Bj,{9^aJ  
    Change in Focus                :       0.801607 Z8E<^<|  
         19     0.51374068    -0.03029165 vK!`#W`X  
    Change in Focus                :       0.947293 E !!,JnU  
         20     0.38013374    -0.16389860 x^K4&'</  
    Change in Focus                :       0.667010 %}@iz(*}>  
    8R*;8y_  
    Number of traceable Monte Carlo files generated: 20 1gHe$ dzXk  
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    Nominal     0.54403234 R&|.Lvmc/  
    Best        0.54384387    Trial     2 $!O@Z8B  
    Worst       0.18154684    Trial     4 m]jA(  
    Mean        0.35770970 >W>rhxU  
    Std Dev     0.11156454 $0[T<]{/?  
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    Compensator Statistics: 5e7YM@ng  
    Change in back focus: /V,xSK9.&  
    Minimum            :        -1.354815 NQqw|3  
    Maximum            :         1.611296 %"`p&aE:  
    Mean               :         0.161872 8Qg{@#Wr  
    Standard Deviation :         0.869664 ]r;rAOWVV  
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    90% >       0.20977951               =7V4{|ESfy  
    80% >       0.22748071               TO Hz3=  
    50% >       0.38667627               J2qsZ  
    20% >       0.46553746               ndD>Oc}"3  
    10% >       0.50064115                `Moo WG  
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    End of Run. eu5te0{G  
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    这就有了些疑问,为什么我选择的补偿器是近轴焦点,而分析结果近轴焦点都不变化??应该是变得。另外最后的蒙特卡洛分析,只有10%的大于0.5(我用的是MTF作为评价方式),可是我设计的MTF如图 Gj?Zbl <  
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    是大于0.6左右的,难道我按照这个默认的公差来加工的话,只有10%的才可能大于0.5?那太低了啊,请问这该怎么进行进一步处理。或者之前哪有问题 ]+:yfDtZd  
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    只看该作者 1楼 发表于: 2011-06-21
    我又试了试,原来是得根据上面的结果不断修改公差,放松或者变紧,然后在做公差分析,不断提高蒙特卡罗的结果。但是比如就拿我这个来说,理想是达到30lp处>0.6,那么实际做蒙特卡罗公差分析时,百分之多少以上的MTF是合格的呢?
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    90% >       0.20977951                 4(\1z6?D  
    80% >       0.22748071                 ^x&x|ckR!  
    50% >       0.38667627                 "1s ]74  
    20% >       0.46553746                 :kHk'.V1(  
    10% >       0.50064115 St?mq* ,  
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    最后这个数值是MTF值呢,还是MTF的公差? 4>(K~v5;N  
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    也就是说,这到底是有90%的产品MTF大于0.20977951还是90%的产品的MTF变化量大于0.20977951???   k$v 7@|Aw  
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    怎么没人啊,大家讨论讨论吗
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    没有人啊???
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    只看该作者 4楼 发表于: 2011-06-23
    引用第2楼sansummer于2011-06-22 08:56发表的  : M-Nn \h$,  
    90% >       0.20977951                 f].z.  
    80% >       0.22748071                 =uwG.,lC  
    50% >       0.38667627                 ^umHuAAE  
    20% >       0.46553746                 Zo-Au  
    10% >       0.50064115 \i~5H]?d  
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    这些数值都是MTF值
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    Criterion           : Geometric MTF average S&T at 30.0000 cycles per mm   @7PE&3  
    Mode                : Sensitivities ,/L_9wV-\  
    Sampling            : 2 .>zkS*oX4z  
    Nominal Criterion   : 0.54403234 b!37:V\#}  
    Test Wavelength     : 0.6328 L3Q1az!Ct  
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    波长632.8nm 时 mtf 是 0.54403234  没达到0.6
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    谢谢。您说的“波长632.8nm 时 mtf 是 0.54403234  没达到0.6”这是一个评价标准吧? e;}5~dSi  
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    这个评价标准和我理想的设计结果的0.6有什么联系吗,另外这个 0.54403234  是这么来的?
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    你试试把原来的系统波长改成632.8nm,看看Geometric MTF    30 per mm 的mtf值是不是0.54403234
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    啊...这倒也是。换了波长的确可能有所变化。另外还有就是如果现在百分比太低,我是否应该考虑把最敏感的公差再紧一些,就会好了?
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    恩,多多尝试