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    只看楼主 倒序阅读 楼主  发表于: 2011-06-21
    我现在在初学zemax的公差分析,找了一个双胶合透镜 Zg3 /,:1  
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    然后添加了默认公差分析,基本没变 Eih6?Lpu  
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    然后运行分析的结果如下: MDoV84Fh  
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    Analysis of Tolerances 7.tIf <^$P  
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    File : E:\光学设计资料\zemax练习\f500.ZMX UHS "{%  
    Title: `(xzCRX  
    Date : TUE JUN 21 2011 m U= 3w  
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    Units are Millimeters. "}2I0tM  
    All changes are computed using linear differences. SNC)cq+{  
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    Paraxial Focus compensation only. yeLd,M/I  
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    WARNING: Solves should be removed prior to tolerancing. mZ g'  
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    Mnemonics: -d[Gy- J  
    TFRN: Tolerance on curvature in fringes. =vsvx{o?  
    TTHI: Tolerance on thickness. P}w0=  
    TSDX: Tolerance on surface decentering in x. x b!&'cw  
    TSDY: Tolerance on surface decentering in y. !$p E=~1C  
    TSTX: Tolerance on surface tilt in x (degrees). kBtzJ#j B  
    TSTY: Tolerance on surface tilt in y (degrees). B D [<>Wm  
    TIRR: Tolerance on irregularity (fringes). ,4r 4 <  
    TIND: Tolerance on Nd index of refraction. n2Y a'YF  
    TEDX: Tolerance on element decentering in x. W^i[7 r  
    TEDY: Tolerance on element decentering in y. |Y30B,=M  
    TETX: Tolerance on element tilt in x (degrees). /}k?Tg/  
    TETY: Tolerance on element tilt in y (degrees). h7PIF*7m e  
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    WARNING: RAY AIMING IS OFF. Very loose tolerances may not be computed accurately. +&.39q !  
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    WARNING: Boundary constraints on compensators will be ignored. Qp-P[Tc  
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    Criterion           : Geometric MTF average S&T at 30.0000 cycles per mm CYdYa|  
    Mode                : Sensitivities 7 iQa)8,  
    Sampling            : 2 U.1&'U*  
    Nominal Criterion   : 0.54403234 P&Wf.qr{:  
    Test Wavelength     : 0.6328 2]Ei4%jo  
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    Fields: XY Symmetric Angle in degrees %?J-0  
    #      X-Field      Y-Field       Weight    VDX    VDY    VCX    VCY q:m qA$n  
    1   0.000E+000   0.000E+000   1.000E+000  0.000  0.000  0.000  0.000 x??H%'rP  
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    Sensitivity Analysis: \"P$*y4Le  
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                     |----------------- Minimum ----------------| |----------------- Maximum ----------------| > 0c g  
    Type                      Value      Criterion        Change          Value      Criterion        Change ->W rBO  
    Fringe tolerance on surface 1 |Ew&.fgz  
    TFRN   1            -1.00000000     0.54257256    -0.00145977     1.00000000     0.54548607     0.00145374 b@B\2BT  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.000000                            0.000000 zANsv9R~  
    Fringe tolerance on surface 2 s qO$ka{  
    TFRN   2            -1.00000000     0.54177471    -0.00225762     1.00000000     0.54627463     0.00224230 K<v:RbU|[1  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 T/tCX[}  
    Fringe tolerance on surface 3 GmZ2a-M  
    TFRN   3            -1.00000000     0.54779866     0.00376632     1.00000000     0.54022572    -0.00380662 cRSgP{hy  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.000000                            0.000000 ~n%]u! 6  
    Thickness tolerance on surface 1 )Ut9k  
    TTHI   1   3        -0.20000000     0.54321462    -0.00081772     0.20000000     0.54484759     0.00081525  dK]#..  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 tdNAR|  
    Thickness tolerance on surface 2 TlC? ?#  
    TTHI   2   3        -0.20000000     0.54478712     0.00075478     0.20000000     0.54327558    -0.00075675 )!5"\eys  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                           -0.000000 <W/YC 2b  
    Decenter X tolerance on surfaces 1 through 3 AbB+<0  
    TEDX   1   3        -0.20000000     0.54401464   -1.7700E-005     0.20000000     0.54401464   -1.7700E-005 _+<AxE9\  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 0+k=gO  
    Decenter Y tolerance on surfaces 1 through 3 +<3e@s&  
    TEDY   1   3        -0.20000000     0.54401464   -1.7700E-005     0.20000000     0.54401464   -1.7700E-005 Er|j\(jM  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000  >1q:-^  
    Tilt X tolerance on surfaces 1 through 3 (degrees) X3l6b+p  
    TETX   1   3        -0.20000000     0.54897548     0.00494314     0.20000000     0.54897548     0.00494314 #yOeL3|b'  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 `m\ ?gsw7  
    Tilt Y tolerance on surfaces 1 through 3 (degrees) P%ZU+ET  
    TETY   1   3        -0.20000000     0.54897548     0.00494314     0.20000000     0.54897548     0.00494314 RggO|s+0;  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 .8XkB<[wb  
    Decenter X tolerance on surface 1 3u'@anre  
    TSDX   1            -0.20000000     0.53999563    -0.00403671     0.20000000     0.53999563    -0.00403671 ~/!jKH7`j  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 [pz1f!Wn  
    Decenter Y tolerance on surface 1 Nk?L<'  
    TSDY   1            -0.20000000     0.53999563    -0.00403671     0.20000000     0.53999563    -0.00403671 wpOM~!9R  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 C <H$}f  
    Tilt X tolerance on surface (degrees) 1 O*9d[jw[  
    TSTX   1            -0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851     0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851 VVc-Dx  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 6G:7r [  
    Tilt Y tolerance on surface (degrees) 1 j#9n.i %h  
    TSTY   1            -0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851     0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851 "MDy0Tj8EN  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 >| hqt8lY  
    Decenter X tolerance on surface 2 k!!d2y6  
    TSDX   2            -0.20000000     0.51705427    -0.02697807     0.20000000     0.51705427    -0.02697807 uy([>8uu  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 Bb7Vf7>  
    Decenter Y tolerance on surface 2 >ajcfG .k(  
    TSDY   2            -0.20000000     0.51705427    -0.02697807     0.20000000     0.51705427    -0.02697807 WB"90!  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 o3.b='HAm  
    Tilt X tolerance on surface (degrees) 2 H4BuxM_r  
    TSTX   2            -0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324     0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324 GX N:=  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 G.qjw]Llf  
    Tilt Y tolerance on surface (degrees) 2 /?S,u,R  
    TSTY   2            -0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324     0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324 , 1il&  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 lht :%Ts$  
    Decenter X tolerance on surface 3 on f7V  
    TSDX   3            -0.20000000     0.53419039    -0.00984195     0.20000000     0.53419039    -0.00984195 *-s':('R  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 KXcE@q9  
    Decenter Y tolerance on surface 3 i7`/"5I  
    TSDY   3            -0.20000000     0.53419039    -0.00984195     0.20000000     0.53419039    -0.00984195 (~^KXJ{->  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 xS_tB)C  
    Tilt X tolerance on surface (degrees) 3 <4*)J9V^s=  
    TSTX   3            -0.20000000     0.42861670    -0.11541563     0.20000000     0.42861670    -0.11541563 Xnxb.{C  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 RY~m Q  
    Tilt Y tolerance on surface (degrees) 3 'L2[^iF9  
    TSTY   3            -0.20000000     0.42861670    -0.11541563     0.20000000     0.42861670    -0.11541563 JgB"N/Oz  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 h[gKyxZ/t  
    Irregularity of surface 1 in fringes ":L d}~>  
    TIRR   1            -0.20000000     0.50973587    -0.03429647     0.20000000     0.57333868     0.02930634 OJs s  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 B &)wJG  
    Irregularity of surface 2 in fringes %D[6;PT  
    TIRR   2            -0.20000000     0.53400904    -0.01002330     0.20000000     0.55360281     0.00957047 xUIH,Fp-9  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 j`-9.  
    Irregularity of surface 3 in fringes CMYkxU  
    TIRR   3            -0.20000000     0.58078982     0.03675748     0.20000000     0.49904394    -0.04498840 .;37 e  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 +P=I4-?eX  
    Index tolerance on surface 1 l6 T5]$  
    TIND   1            -0.00100000     0.52606778    -0.01796456     0.00100000     0.56121811     0.01718578 ,sn 9&E  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 m"vWu0/#  
    Index tolerance on surface 2 n ZzGak  
    TIND   2            -0.00100000     0.55639086     0.01235852     0.00100000     0.53126361    -0.01276872 e it%U  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                           -0.000000 _@sSVh$+  
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    Worst offenders: CjU?3Ag  
    Type                      Value      Criterion        Change M1XzA `*  
    TSTY   2            -0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324 C 4\Q8uK  
    TSTY   2             0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324 'e7;^s  
    TSTX   2            -0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324 S oB6F9  
    TSTX   2             0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324 e;&fO[ 2  
    TSTY   1            -0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851 f6%7:B d  
    TSTY   1             0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851 3E;<aCG?  
    TSTX   1            -0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851 [?F]S:/i  
    TSTX   1             0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851 Og"\@n  
    TSTY   3            -0.20000000     0.42861670    -0.11541563 ^j7]> I  
    TSTY   3             0.20000000     0.42861670    -0.11541563 KOD%>+vG$  
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    Estimated Performance Changes based upon Root-Sum-Square method: 8z* /J=n  
    Nominal MTF                 :     0.54403234 vtXZ`[D,l)  
    Estimated change            :    -0.36299231 ljjnqQ%  
    Estimated MTF               :     0.18104003 J\\o# -H  
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    Compensator Statistics: B@,#,-=  
    Change in back focus: 3NgyF[c  
    Minimum            :        -0.000000 ~ tqDh(  
    Maximum            :         0.000000 $~:|Vj5iZ\  
    Mean               :        -0.000000 <O]B'Wc [  
    Standard Deviation :         0.000000 C8 "FTH'  
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    Monte Carlo Analysis: P6;Cohfh  
    Number of trials: 20 m"mU:-jk`  
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    Initial Statistics: Normal Distribution Yx<wYzD  
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      Trial       Criterion        Change 4 UnN~  
          1     0.42804416    -0.11598818 #l_hiD`;r  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.400171 u$mp%d8  
          2     0.54384387    -0.00018847 IJofbuzw:  
    Change in Focus                :       1.018470 G1/  
          3     0.44510003    -0.09893230 ?a` $Y>?h  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.601922 n; *W#c  
          4     0.18154684    -0.36248550 j'|`:^ Sy  
    Change in Focus                :       0.920681 O:W4W=K  
          5     0.28665820    -0.25737414 ^I6GH?19>e  
    Change in Focus                :       1.253875 Ozs&YZ  
          6     0.21263372    -0.33139862 Iih]q  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.903878 jW_FaPW(p  
          7     0.40051424    -0.14351809 K_LwYO3  
    Change in Focus                :      -1.354815 Q#*Pjl  
          8     0.48754161    -0.05649072 /SQ1i}%  
    Change in Focus                :       0.215922 K"9V8x3Wg  
          9     0.40357468    -0.14045766 1TL~I-G&n  
    Change in Focus                :       0.281783 <^wqN!/  
         10     0.26315315    -0.28087919 +v"%@lC};  
    Change in Focus                :      -1.048393 lcEin*Oc  
         11     0.26120585    -0.28282649 T>pz?e^5&  
    Change in Focus                :       1.017611 3dC ;B@  
         12     0.24033815    -0.30369419 Q)}z$h55  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.109292 i{6wns?KMj  
         13     0.37164046    -0.17239188 a1# 'uS9W  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.692430 /S&8%fb  
         14     0.48597489    -0.05805744 {Qj7?}xW  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.662040 y,=TB#  
         15     0.21462327    -0.32940907 +@5*_n\e`  
    Change in Focus                :       1.611296 xsSX~`  
         16     0.43378226    -0.11025008 JM Ikr9/$  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.640081 HU+zzTgI  
         17     0.39321881    -0.15081353 %& b70]S(  
    Change in Focus                :       0.914906 XpibI3:<  
         18     0.20692530    -0.33710703 q. NvwJ  
    Change in Focus                :       0.801607 ouR(l;  
         19     0.51374068    -0.03029165 };@J)}  
    Change in Focus                :       0.947293 TeWpdUCO  
         20     0.38013374    -0.16389860 Gu@Znh-D  
    Change in Focus                :       0.667010 #[ch?K  
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    Number of traceable Monte Carlo files generated: 20 !0 -[}vvU  
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    Nominal     0.54403234 ad[oor/7|  
    Best        0.54384387    Trial     2 \h 1T/_4  
    Worst       0.18154684    Trial     4 .q9wyVi7GI  
    Mean        0.35770970 OFcqouGE  
    Std Dev     0.11156454 y]TNjLpo$  
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    )90K^$93"  
    Compensator Statistics: 7T}r]C.  
    Change in back focus: ;#Pc^Yzc1  
    Minimum            :        -1.354815  = ~^  
    Maximum            :         1.611296 DX%D8atrr  
    Mean               :         0.161872 \cRe,(?O  
    Standard Deviation :         0.869664 h`b[c.%  
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    90% >       0.20977951               bjYaJtn  
    80% >       0.22748071               ;IX*4E'4s  
    50% >       0.38667627               [W2GLd]  
    20% >       0.46553746               AV*eGzz`  
    10% >       0.50064115                ^NPbD<~Lb  
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    End of Run.  _F9O4Q4  
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    这就有了些疑问,为什么我选择的补偿器是近轴焦点,而分析结果近轴焦点都不变化??应该是变得。另外最后的蒙特卡洛分析,只有10%的大于0.5(我用的是MTF作为评价方式),可是我设计的MTF如图 JOm6Zc  
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    是大于0.6左右的,难道我按照这个默认的公差来加工的话,只有10%的才可能大于0.5?那太低了啊,请问这该怎么进行进一步处理。或者之前哪有问题 cPm-)/E)i  
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    只看该作者 1楼 发表于: 2011-06-21
    我又试了试,原来是得根据上面的结果不断修改公差,放松或者变紧,然后在做公差分析,不断提高蒙特卡罗的结果。但是比如就拿我这个来说,理想是达到30lp处>0.6,那么实际做蒙特卡罗公差分析时,百分之多少以上的MTF是合格的呢?
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    90% >       0.20977951                 "=BO,see9  
    80% >       0.22748071                 }_{QsPx9  
    50% >       0.38667627                 pt!Q%rXm  
    20% >       0.46553746                 '#b7Z?83C  
    10% >       0.50064115 FTg4i\Wp  
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    最后这个数值是MTF值呢,还是MTF的公差? 6Q6l?!|W4  
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    也就是说,这到底是有90%的产品MTF大于0.20977951还是90%的产品的MTF变化量大于0.20977951???   9IRvbE~2  
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    怎么没人啊,大家讨论讨论吗
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    没有人啊???
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    引用第2楼sansummer于2011-06-22 08:56发表的  : a{h(BI^~  
    90% >       0.20977951                 SPV'0* Z  
    80% >       0.22748071                 f*~ 4Kv  
    50% >       0.38667627                 k~Pm.@,3o  
    20% >       0.46553746                 cLl fncI  
    10% >       0.50064115 33kI#45s  
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    这些数值都是MTF值
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    Criterion           : Geometric MTF average S&T at 30.0000 cycles per mm   l7{hq}@;cC  
    Mode                : Sensitivities `Ik}Xw  
    Sampling            : 2 +$>ut r  
    Nominal Criterion   : 0.54403234 ID+'$u &  
    Test Wavelength     : 0.6328 M{kPEl&Z  
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    波长632.8nm 时 mtf 是 0.54403234  没达到0.6
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    谢谢。您说的“波长632.8nm 时 mtf 是 0.54403234  没达到0.6”这是一个评价标准吧? -N\{QX1Yd  
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    这个评价标准和我理想的设计结果的0.6有什么联系吗,另外这个 0.54403234  是这么来的?
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    你试试把原来的系统波长改成632.8nm,看看Geometric MTF    30 per mm 的mtf值是不是0.54403234
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    啊...这倒也是。换了波长的确可能有所变化。另外还有就是如果现在百分比太低,我是否应该考虑把最敏感的公差再紧一些,就会好了?
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    恩,多多尝试