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    我现在在初学zemax的公差分析,找了一个双胶合透镜 I\J ^@&JE  
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    然后添加了默认公差分析,基本没变 p%A s6.  
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    然后运行分析的结果如下: Z%_"-ENT  
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    Analysis of Tolerances !#P|2>>u  
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    File : E:\光学设计资料\zemax练习\f500.ZMX g_8Bhe"ik  
    Title: ,{=pFs2  
    Date : TUE JUN 21 2011 !.>TF+]  
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    Units are Millimeters. gaeMcL_^a  
    All changes are computed using linear differences. xW92 ZuzSH  
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    Paraxial Focus compensation only. IK~'ke  
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    WARNING: Solves should be removed prior to tolerancing. Nm;(M =  
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    Mnemonics: <)01]lKH  
    TFRN: Tolerance on curvature in fringes. Bn>"lDf,  
    TTHI: Tolerance on thickness. MVe:[=VOT|  
    TSDX: Tolerance on surface decentering in x. w@ 1g_dy  
    TSDY: Tolerance on surface decentering in y. &3a1(>(7F  
    TSTX: Tolerance on surface tilt in x (degrees). d8l T+MS=  
    TSTY: Tolerance on surface tilt in y (degrees). 9X<o8^V  
    TIRR: Tolerance on irregularity (fringes). |8,|>EyqK  
    TIND: Tolerance on Nd index of refraction. ,khB*h14;h  
    TEDX: Tolerance on element decentering in x. fZM)>  
    TEDY: Tolerance on element decentering in y. vU5a`0mH  
    TETX: Tolerance on element tilt in x (degrees). l)@Zuh  
    TETY: Tolerance on element tilt in y (degrees). H(}Jt!/:  
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    WARNING: RAY AIMING IS OFF. Very loose tolerances may not be computed accurately. !ho~@sc{W  
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    WARNING: Boundary constraints on compensators will be ignored. %"#%/>U4  
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    Criterion           : Geometric MTF average S&T at 30.0000 cycles per mm cWG>w6FI  
    Mode                : Sensitivities e)Q{yO  
    Sampling            : 2 u~kfz*hz  
    Nominal Criterion   : 0.54403234 or2BG&W  
    Test Wavelength     : 0.6328 <G d?,}\  
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    Fields: XY Symmetric Angle in degrees ~nul[>z  
    #      X-Field      Y-Field       Weight    VDX    VDY    VCX    VCY .m',*s<CMQ  
    1   0.000E+000   0.000E+000   1.000E+000  0.000  0.000  0.000  0.000 ssdpwn'  
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    Sensitivity Analysis: \?n4d#=$o  
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                     |----------------- Minimum ----------------| |----------------- Maximum ----------------| tCkKJ)m  
    Type                      Value      Criterion        Change          Value      Criterion        Change d=?Kk4Ag  
    Fringe tolerance on surface 1 aD5jy  
    TFRN   1            -1.00000000     0.54257256    -0.00145977     1.00000000     0.54548607     0.00145374 N =k}"2_=  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.000000                            0.000000 <Q-Y$ ^\  
    Fringe tolerance on surface 2 M\%LB}4M  
    TFRN   2            -1.00000000     0.54177471    -0.00225762     1.00000000     0.54627463     0.00224230 =P* YwLb  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 `S&(J2KV  
    Fringe tolerance on surface 3 -c%K_2`  
    TFRN   3            -1.00000000     0.54779866     0.00376632     1.00000000     0.54022572    -0.00380662 #w2;n@7;X  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.000000                            0.000000 .#py5&`%  
    Thickness tolerance on surface 1 4';~@IBf  
    TTHI   1   3        -0.20000000     0.54321462    -0.00081772     0.20000000     0.54484759     0.00081525 kpxWi=y  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 'o%IA)sF  
    Thickness tolerance on surface 2 -,;r %7T  
    TTHI   2   3        -0.20000000     0.54478712     0.00075478     0.20000000     0.54327558    -0.00075675 .f+ul@o  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                           -0.000000 ?]JTrv"zp  
    Decenter X tolerance on surfaces 1 through 3 v%mAU3M  
    TEDX   1   3        -0.20000000     0.54401464   -1.7700E-005     0.20000000     0.54401464   -1.7700E-005 ]{tnNr>mv  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 P!;%DI!<b  
    Decenter Y tolerance on surfaces 1 through 3 %Se@8d8  
    TEDY   1   3        -0.20000000     0.54401464   -1.7700E-005     0.20000000     0.54401464   -1.7700E-005 xG802?2i/;  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 1M%'Xe7  
    Tilt X tolerance on surfaces 1 through 3 (degrees) SONv] ));  
    TETX   1   3        -0.20000000     0.54897548     0.00494314     0.20000000     0.54897548     0.00494314 T]&% KQ  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 Pfy2PpA  
    Tilt Y tolerance on surfaces 1 through 3 (degrees) N>Dr z  
    TETY   1   3        -0.20000000     0.54897548     0.00494314     0.20000000     0.54897548     0.00494314 bnso+cA  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 }sbh|#  
    Decenter X tolerance on surface 1 Idq &0<I  
    TSDX   1            -0.20000000     0.53999563    -0.00403671     0.20000000     0.53999563    -0.00403671 jacp':T  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 -pWnO9q  
    Decenter Y tolerance on surface 1 m@|0iDS  
    TSDY   1            -0.20000000     0.53999563    -0.00403671     0.20000000     0.53999563    -0.00403671 b4l=Bg"  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 ^lF'KW$  
    Tilt X tolerance on surface (degrees) 1 hJuR,NP  
    TSTX   1            -0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851     0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851 k!{0ku}]  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 ( MI8Kkb1d  
    Tilt Y tolerance on surface (degrees) 1 -k$*@Hq  
    TSTY   1            -0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851     0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851 8T:?C~"  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 Z *9Qeu-N:  
    Decenter X tolerance on surface 2 ||M;[-JoJ  
    TSDX   2            -0.20000000     0.51705427    -0.02697807     0.20000000     0.51705427    -0.02697807 P;A9t#\  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 ;IN!H@bq  
    Decenter Y tolerance on surface 2 ~OuKewr\  
    TSDY   2            -0.20000000     0.51705427    -0.02697807     0.20000000     0.51705427    -0.02697807 TLBIM  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 j. @CB`  
    Tilt X tolerance on surface (degrees) 2 3WOm`<  
    TSTX   2            -0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324     0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324 Dy_ayxm  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 &, =Z  
    Tilt Y tolerance on surface (degrees) 2 nnv&~C  
    TSTY   2            -0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324     0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324 =Nyq1~   
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 T#HW{3  
    Decenter X tolerance on surface 3 {S+  $C  
    TSDX   3            -0.20000000     0.53419039    -0.00984195     0.20000000     0.53419039    -0.00984195 ^Po^Co  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 B)q 5m y  
    Decenter Y tolerance on surface 3 anM]khs?  
    TSDY   3            -0.20000000     0.53419039    -0.00984195     0.20000000     0.53419039    -0.00984195 !Vtj:2PQL  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 - &AgjzN!  
    Tilt X tolerance on surface (degrees) 3 i!|OFU6  
    TSTX   3            -0.20000000     0.42861670    -0.11541563     0.20000000     0.42861670    -0.11541563 u$vA9g4  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 PVNDvUce  
    Tilt Y tolerance on surface (degrees) 3 a#U2y"  
    TSTY   3            -0.20000000     0.42861670    -0.11541563     0.20000000     0.42861670    -0.11541563 +7`7cOqXg  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 RotWMGNK  
    Irregularity of surface 1 in fringes c.<bz  
    TIRR   1            -0.20000000     0.50973587    -0.03429647     0.20000000     0.57333868     0.02930634 uR;m<wPH,f  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 ji8)/  
    Irregularity of surface 2 in fringes }K rQPg  
    TIRR   2            -0.20000000     0.53400904    -0.01002330     0.20000000     0.55360281     0.00957047 Wu{cE;t  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 B7y^)/  
    Irregularity of surface 3 in fringes cft'%IEs  
    TIRR   3            -0.20000000     0.58078982     0.03675748     0.20000000     0.49904394    -0.04498840 ^V5VRGq  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 Eku+&f@RB  
    Index tolerance on surface 1 GL S`1!  
    TIND   1            -0.00100000     0.52606778    -0.01796456     0.00100000     0.56121811     0.01718578 {.,-lFb\  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 Hzn6H4Rc  
    Index tolerance on surface 2 Cyn_UE  
    TIND   2            -0.00100000     0.55639086     0.01235852     0.00100000     0.53126361    -0.01276872 ['`Vg=O.{  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                           -0.000000 ,MmX(O0  
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    Worst offenders: ?y1G,0,  
    Type                      Value      Criterion        Change T@{ }!  
    TSTY   2            -0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324 xE0'eC5n^  
    TSTY   2             0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324 @xq jAcfg  
    TSTX   2            -0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324 B %L dH  
    TSTX   2             0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324 (8XP7c]5  
    TSTY   1            -0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851 eHIsTL@Fp  
    TSTY   1             0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851 gq:2`W&5  
    TSTX   1            -0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851 ^U5g7Emf  
    TSTX   1             0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851 ?'jRUfl   
    TSTY   3            -0.20000000     0.42861670    -0.11541563 @hz~9AII9  
    TSTY   3             0.20000000     0.42861670    -0.11541563 [f8mh88 r  
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    Estimated Performance Changes based upon Root-Sum-Square method: Qf$3!O}G  
    Nominal MTF                 :     0.54403234 +~ZFao qf  
    Estimated change            :    -0.36299231  f^vz  
    Estimated MTF               :     0.18104003 v}>5!*  
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    Compensator Statistics: ~HM,@5dFC  
    Change in back focus: C7hJE -  
    Minimum            :        -0.000000 ;oT!\$Mu  
    Maximum            :         0.000000 5 `Mos  
    Mean               :        -0.000000 !#b8QER  
    Standard Deviation :         0.000000 }zE Qrfl  
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    Monte Carlo Analysis: F?3zw4Vt~  
    Number of trials: 20 Ln3<r&&Jz  
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    Initial Statistics: Normal Distribution 8s@k0T<O  
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      Trial       Criterion        Change IT5a/;J  
          1     0.42804416    -0.11598818 !^h{7NmP[  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.400171 k04CSzE"%  
          2     0.54384387    -0.00018847 @/yQ4Gr  
    Change in Focus                :       1.018470 :tTP3 t5  
          3     0.44510003    -0.09893230  FTk`Mq  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.601922 920 o]Dh=t  
          4     0.18154684    -0.36248550 'xn3g;5  
    Change in Focus                :       0.920681 uJg|  
          5     0.28665820    -0.25737414 -Y:^<C^^&8  
    Change in Focus                :       1.253875 -h|YS/$f  
          6     0.21263372    -0.33139862 /z(;1$Ld6{  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.903878 ^j)0&}fB  
          7     0.40051424    -0.14351809 FKVf_Ncf%  
    Change in Focus                :      -1.354815 4^>FN"Ve`B  
          8     0.48754161    -0.05649072 T=- $ok`G  
    Change in Focus                :       0.215922 2(%C  
          9     0.40357468    -0.14045766 :TTZ@ q  
    Change in Focus                :       0.281783 !92zC._  
         10     0.26315315    -0.28087919 Ic,V ,#my  
    Change in Focus                :      -1.048393 $Lf-Gi  
         11     0.26120585    -0.28282649 fd CN?p[_  
    Change in Focus                :       1.017611 u,f$cR  
         12     0.24033815    -0.30369419 5Y}=,v*h}  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.109292 ] 1:pnd  
         13     0.37164046    -0.17239188 !}$,) ~<+H  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.692430 zo{WmV7[|  
         14     0.48597489    -0.05805744 $SAk|  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.662040 3R|C$+Sc  
         15     0.21462327    -0.32940907 A@HCd&h  
    Change in Focus                :       1.611296 @4ECz>Q  
         16     0.43378226    -0.11025008 ^|+;~3<J  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.640081 5N'Z"C0  
         17     0.39321881    -0.15081353 1|8<!Hx#-  
    Change in Focus                :       0.914906 XSDudL  
         18     0.20692530    -0.33710703 DFUW^0N  
    Change in Focus                :       0.801607 99]&Xj  
         19     0.51374068    -0.03029165  Q&d"uLsx  
    Change in Focus                :       0.947293 ' 6#en9{L  
         20     0.38013374    -0.16389860 x,~ys4  
    Change in Focus                :       0.667010 YlP8fxS  
    =u,8(:R]s  
    Number of traceable Monte Carlo files generated: 20 J<'7z%2w  
    \A'tV/YAd  
    Nominal     0.54403234 wFHbz9|@I  
    Best        0.54384387    Trial     2 q/N1q&  
    Worst       0.18154684    Trial     4 )vcyoq  
    Mean        0.35770970 hCX_^%  
    Std Dev     0.11156454 A['0~tOP  
    }1)tALA  
    DGY?4r7>y  
    Compensator Statistics:  zG0191f  
    Change in back focus: b+rn:R  
    Minimum            :        -1.354815 74u_YA<"  
    Maximum            :         1.611296 u+ ?Wm40E  
    Mean               :         0.161872 ^o@N.+`&<  
    Standard Deviation :         0.869664 ha -KfkPFE  
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    90% >       0.20977951               "-U`E)]w*[  
    80% >       0.22748071               c@xQ2&i  
    50% >       0.38667627               -ghmLMS%t  
    20% >       0.46553746               v.~uJ.T  
    10% >       0.50064115                Z<2j#rd  
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    End of Run. <8[y2|UBt  
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    这就有了些疑问,为什么我选择的补偿器是近轴焦点,而分析结果近轴焦点都不变化??应该是变得。另外最后的蒙特卡洛分析,只有10%的大于0.5(我用的是MTF作为评价方式),可是我设计的MTF如图 -{tB&V~+v  
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    是大于0.6左右的,难道我按照这个默认的公差来加工的话,只有10%的才可能大于0.5?那太低了啊,请问这该怎么进行进一步处理。或者之前哪有问题 |'R^\M Q  
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    只看该作者 1楼 发表于: 2011-06-21
    我又试了试,原来是得根据上面的结果不断修改公差,放松或者变紧,然后在做公差分析,不断提高蒙特卡罗的结果。但是比如就拿我这个来说,理想是达到30lp处>0.6,那么实际做蒙特卡罗公差分析时,百分之多少以上的MTF是合格的呢?
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    90% >       0.20977951                 EC]b]'._  
    80% >       0.22748071                 0)?.rthk4S  
    50% >       0.38667627                 ~G;lEp  
    20% >       0.46553746                 >C1**GQ  
    10% >       0.50064115 E[Rd= /P6  
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    最后这个数值是MTF值呢,还是MTF的公差? 9MmAoLm  
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    也就是说,这到底是有90%的产品MTF大于0.20977951还是90%的产品的MTF变化量大于0.20977951???   F_?aoP&5  
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    怎么没人啊,大家讨论讨论吗
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    没有人啊???
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    引用第2楼sansummer于2011-06-22 08:56发表的  : Fp_?1 y  
    90% >       0.20977951                 Ik4FVL8~  
    80% >       0.22748071                 }.nHT0l  
    50% >       0.38667627                 6 J&_H(^  
    20% >       0.46553746                 $50/wb6s  
    10% >       0.50064115 |KV|x ^fJ  
    ....... HF2w?:  
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    这些数值都是MTF值
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    Criterion           : Geometric MTF average S&T at 30.0000 cycles per mm   SuO@LroxTB  
    Mode                : Sensitivities 9S .J%*F7  
    Sampling            : 2 U{8]TEv  
    Nominal Criterion   : 0.54403234 -f{NVX\<0  
    Test Wavelength     : 0.6328 ]TE,N$X  
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    波长632.8nm 时 mtf 是 0.54403234  没达到0.6
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    谢谢。您说的“波长632.8nm 时 mtf 是 0.54403234  没达到0.6”这是一个评价标准吧? lT<4c5 %  
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    这个评价标准和我理想的设计结果的0.6有什么联系吗,另外这个 0.54403234  是这么来的?
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    你试试把原来的系统波长改成632.8nm,看看Geometric MTF    30 per mm 的mtf值是不是0.54403234
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    啊...这倒也是。换了波长的确可能有所变化。另外还有就是如果现在百分比太低,我是否应该考虑把最敏感的公差再紧一些,就会好了?
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    恩,多多尝试