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    只看楼主 倒序阅读 楼主  发表于: 2011-06-21
    我现在在初学zemax的公差分析,找了一个双胶合透镜 n%.7h3  
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    然后添加了默认公差分析,基本没变 I%j|D#qY:T  
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    然后运行分析的结果如下: R\G0'?h >  
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    Analysis of Tolerances v50bdj9}k  
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    File : E:\光学设计资料\zemax练习\f500.ZMX uXJ;A *  
    Title: ;RC{<wBTx  
    Date : TUE JUN 21 2011 R6kD=JY/!  
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    Units are Millimeters. QSdHm  
    All changes are computed using linear differences. 7e|s wJ>4  
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    Paraxial Focus compensation only. CUBEW~X}M  
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    WARNING: Solves should be removed prior to tolerancing. g9}DnCT*.  
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    Mnemonics: lhAX;s&9  
    TFRN: Tolerance on curvature in fringes. j7$e28|_n  
    TTHI: Tolerance on thickness. jHE}qE~>5  
    TSDX: Tolerance on surface decentering in x. i@)i$i4  
    TSDY: Tolerance on surface decentering in y. aW)-?(6>  
    TSTX: Tolerance on surface tilt in x (degrees). @s ?  
    TSTY: Tolerance on surface tilt in y (degrees). N~goI#4  
    TIRR: Tolerance on irregularity (fringes). ao1(]64X"  
    TIND: Tolerance on Nd index of refraction. Dwr)0nk  
    TEDX: Tolerance on element decentering in x. ODNM+#}`  
    TEDY: Tolerance on element decentering in y. =[cS0Sy  
    TETX: Tolerance on element tilt in x (degrees). n 22zq6m  
    TETY: Tolerance on element tilt in y (degrees). bMg(B-uF7  
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    WARNING: RAY AIMING IS OFF. Very loose tolerances may not be computed accurately. 6}[I2F_^  
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    WARNING: Boundary constraints on compensators will be ignored. hV8[@&Sx3  
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    Criterion           : Geometric MTF average S&T at 30.0000 cycles per mm 5cL83FQh  
    Mode                : Sensitivities |:q=T ~x  
    Sampling            : 2 ZM !CaR  
    Nominal Criterion   : 0.54403234 C*)3e*T*  
    Test Wavelength     : 0.6328 )t0$qd ]  
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    Fields: XY Symmetric Angle in degrees qT{U(  
    #      X-Field      Y-Field       Weight    VDX    VDY    VCX    VCY F\JM\{&F  
    1   0.000E+000   0.000E+000   1.000E+000  0.000  0.000  0.000  0.000 nBjqTud  
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    Sensitivity Analysis: p Dx1z|@z  
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                     |----------------- Minimum ----------------| |----------------- Maximum ----------------| w28o}$b`  
    Type                      Value      Criterion        Change          Value      Criterion        Change z1PBMSG  
    Fringe tolerance on surface 1 bf ]f=;.+  
    TFRN   1            -1.00000000     0.54257256    -0.00145977     1.00000000     0.54548607     0.00145374 2,$8icM  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.000000                            0.000000 !;&p"E|b#  
    Fringe tolerance on surface 2 D.B.7-_8  
    TFRN   2            -1.00000000     0.54177471    -0.00225762     1.00000000     0.54627463     0.00224230 we~[] \  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 kO.%9wFbz  
    Fringe tolerance on surface 3 -Br Mp%C  
    TFRN   3            -1.00000000     0.54779866     0.00376632     1.00000000     0.54022572    -0.00380662 j"ThEx0  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.000000                            0.000000 #C~+JL  
    Thickness tolerance on surface 1 GY6`JWk  
    TTHI   1   3        -0.20000000     0.54321462    -0.00081772     0.20000000     0.54484759     0.00081525 Uol|9F  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 q@QksAq  
    Thickness tolerance on surface 2 eJF5n#  
    TTHI   2   3        -0.20000000     0.54478712     0.00075478     0.20000000     0.54327558    -0.00075675 <r .)hT"0  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                           -0.000000 tX9{hC^  
    Decenter X tolerance on surfaces 1 through 3 / ;$#d}R  
    TEDX   1   3        -0.20000000     0.54401464   -1.7700E-005     0.20000000     0.54401464   -1.7700E-005 1tEgl\u\  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 Fsmycr!R  
    Decenter Y tolerance on surfaces 1 through 3 9_# >aOqL  
    TEDY   1   3        -0.20000000     0.54401464   -1.7700E-005     0.20000000     0.54401464   -1.7700E-005 dsb`xw  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 6Z>FTz_  
    Tilt X tolerance on surfaces 1 through 3 (degrees) m'Amli@[  
    TETX   1   3        -0.20000000     0.54897548     0.00494314     0.20000000     0.54897548     0.00494314 D"Bl:W'?j  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 |4)>:d  
    Tilt Y tolerance on surfaces 1 through 3 (degrees) b*;Si7-  
    TETY   1   3        -0.20000000     0.54897548     0.00494314     0.20000000     0.54897548     0.00494314 j`JMeCG=Ee  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 $:=A'd2  
    Decenter X tolerance on surface 1 0[R L>;D:  
    TSDX   1            -0.20000000     0.53999563    -0.00403671     0.20000000     0.53999563    -0.00403671 aGrIQq/k)%  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 54gBJEhg  
    Decenter Y tolerance on surface 1 [>+4^&  
    TSDY   1            -0.20000000     0.53999563    -0.00403671     0.20000000     0.53999563    -0.00403671 hv`~?n)D66  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 !POl;%\  
    Tilt X tolerance on surface (degrees) 1 *?5*m+  
    TSTX   1            -0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851     0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851 qW$<U3u}  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 }6p@lla,%]  
    Tilt Y tolerance on surface (degrees) 1 F|d\k Q  
    TSTY   1            -0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851     0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851 i2@VB6]?  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 #+:9T /*>0  
    Decenter X tolerance on surface 2 =}lh_  
    TSDX   2            -0.20000000     0.51705427    -0.02697807     0.20000000     0.51705427    -0.02697807 RHaI~jb  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 .GsV>H  
    Decenter Y tolerance on surface 2 <Y*+|T+&d  
    TSDY   2            -0.20000000     0.51705427    -0.02697807     0.20000000     0.51705427    -0.02697807 ]mo-rhDsM  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 n G,A@/N  
    Tilt X tolerance on surface (degrees) 2 wg7V-+@i  
    TSTX   2            -0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324     0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324 @G BxL*e  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 -|J"s$yO4  
    Tilt Y tolerance on surface (degrees) 2 D8inB+/-  
    TSTY   2            -0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324     0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324 ujDd1Bxf?  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 9i'jj N  
    Decenter X tolerance on surface 3 v/Py"hQ  
    TSDX   3            -0.20000000     0.53419039    -0.00984195     0.20000000     0.53419039    -0.00984195 AJf4_+He  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 &R[ M c-2  
    Decenter Y tolerance on surface 3  ~3Lg"I  
    TSDY   3            -0.20000000     0.53419039    -0.00984195     0.20000000     0.53419039    -0.00984195 6DM$g=/ '  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 -l`f)0{  
    Tilt X tolerance on surface (degrees) 3 w zYzug  
    TSTX   3            -0.20000000     0.42861670    -0.11541563     0.20000000     0.42861670    -0.11541563 M}`B{]lLz  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 cQ/5qg  
    Tilt Y tolerance on surface (degrees) 3 1e(E:_t  
    TSTY   3            -0.20000000     0.42861670    -0.11541563     0.20000000     0.42861670    -0.11541563 $}<PL}+  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 :V1W/c  
    Irregularity of surface 1 in fringes j.C`U(n}`  
    TIRR   1            -0.20000000     0.50973587    -0.03429647     0.20000000     0.57333868     0.02930634 J5di[nu  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 bP8Sj16q  
    Irregularity of surface 2 in fringes $h5xH9x ;  
    TIRR   2            -0.20000000     0.53400904    -0.01002330     0.20000000     0.55360281     0.00957047 _4rFEYz$d  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 aK&b{d  
    Irregularity of surface 3 in fringes dq7x3v^"ZG  
    TIRR   3            -0.20000000     0.58078982     0.03675748     0.20000000     0.49904394    -0.04498840 KX!T8+Y  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 NMW#AZVd  
    Index tolerance on surface 1 rx $mk  
    TIND   1            -0.00100000     0.52606778    -0.01796456     0.00100000     0.56121811     0.01718578 ~;QvWS  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 ?{\nf7Y  
    Index tolerance on surface 2 | h`0u'#  
    TIND   2            -0.00100000     0.55639086     0.01235852     0.00100000     0.53126361    -0.01276872 8B7cBkl:  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                           -0.000000 `NnUyQ;T  
    TMAJb+@l:  
    Worst offenders: $56Z#'(D  
    Type                      Value      Criterion        Change Fgkajig  
    TSTY   2            -0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324 $$D}I*^Dt  
    TSTY   2             0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324 U1@IX4^2`  
    TSTX   2            -0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324 y)F;zW<+  
    TSTX   2             0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324 n1qQ+(xC  
    TSTY   1            -0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851 D;oe2E{I  
    TSTY   1             0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851 x4g3 rmp  
    TSTX   1            -0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851 O?NeSx 1  
    TSTX   1             0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851 3!3xCO  
    TSTY   3            -0.20000000     0.42861670    -0.11541563 Vx(B{5>Vu  
    TSTY   3             0.20000000     0.42861670    -0.11541563 *YW/_  
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    Estimated Performance Changes based upon Root-Sum-Square method: &J55P]7w  
    Nominal MTF                 :     0.54403234 YCdS!&^UN  
    Estimated change            :    -0.36299231 _]04lGx27  
    Estimated MTF               :     0.18104003 /|r^W\DV&x  
    BS /G("oZ[  
    Compensator Statistics: ;6gDV`Twy  
    Change in back focus: z3`-plE  
    Minimum            :        -0.000000 vh"R'o  
    Maximum            :         0.000000 ]p*l%(dhY  
    Mean               :        -0.000000 +~'865{  
    Standard Deviation :         0.000000 cmBB[pk\  
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    Monte Carlo Analysis: WzAb|&?  
    Number of trials: 20 cnSJ{T  
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    Initial Statistics: Normal Distribution H70LhN  
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      Trial       Criterion        Change #?5 (o  
          1     0.42804416    -0.11598818 WF2}-NU"  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.400171 <!L>Exh&r  
          2     0.54384387    -0.00018847 wDcj,:h`  
    Change in Focus                :       1.018470 s<*XN NE7  
          3     0.44510003    -0.09893230 / rg*p  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.601922 if}-_E<F  
          4     0.18154684    -0.36248550 pR `>b 3  
    Change in Focus                :       0.920681  i7]4W  
          5     0.28665820    -0.25737414 &?VQ,+[ <  
    Change in Focus                :       1.253875 Ae mDJ8Y  
          6     0.21263372    -0.33139862 =3|O %\  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.903878 M>DaQ`b  
          7     0.40051424    -0.14351809 Z= jr-)kK  
    Change in Focus                :      -1.354815 2}YOcnB  
          8     0.48754161    -0.05649072 zEs>b(5u  
    Change in Focus                :       0.215922 |\QgX%  
          9     0.40357468    -0.14045766 #rxVd 7f  
    Change in Focus                :       0.281783 umD!2 w  
         10     0.26315315    -0.28087919 %R@X>2l/_  
    Change in Focus                :      -1.048393 Lk~ho?^`  
         11     0.26120585    -0.28282649 UjaK&K+M?  
    Change in Focus                :       1.017611 '#s05hr  
         12     0.24033815    -0.30369419 9v?N+Rb  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.109292 P9=?zh 6G.  
         13     0.37164046    -0.17239188 =jlt5 z  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.692430 }xBc0g r  
         14     0.48597489    -0.05805744 1v,Us5s<"6  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.662040 p+l!6  
         15     0.21462327    -0.32940907 _Xnqb+  
    Change in Focus                :       1.611296 Xua+cVc\y  
         16     0.43378226    -0.11025008 i%ZW3MrY~  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.640081 ZaeqOVp/j  
         17     0.39321881    -0.15081353 ;w'D4p= P  
    Change in Focus                :       0.914906 n,=VQ Ou  
         18     0.20692530    -0.33710703 )_{dWf1  
    Change in Focus                :       0.801607 RMd[Yr2e  
         19     0.51374068    -0.03029165 @.G[s)x  
    Change in Focus                :       0.947293 ! vP[;6  
         20     0.38013374    -0.16389860 GN-mrQo  
    Change in Focus                :       0.667010 x\F,SEj  
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    Number of traceable Monte Carlo files generated: 20 5nv<^>[J  
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    Nominal     0.54403234 0dhF&*h|L  
    Best        0.54384387    Trial     2 i-bJS6  
    Worst       0.18154684    Trial     4 ,stN  
    Mean        0.35770970 Qi_>Mg`x  
    Std Dev     0.11156454 B+[A]dgS  
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    !6s"]WvF  
    Compensator Statistics: f` :i.Sr  
    Change in back focus: )jkXS TZ  
    Minimum            :        -1.354815 VUVaaOmO  
    Maximum            :         1.611296 m-H-6`]  
    Mean               :         0.161872 AK\$i$@6  
    Standard Deviation :         0.869664 ,Vh.T&X5  
    0TN;86Mo  
    90% >       0.20977951               (7XCA,KTGI  
    80% >       0.22748071               '3TW [!m  
    50% >       0.38667627               %6L^2 X  
    20% >       0.46553746               6T+FH;h  
    10% >       0.50064115                'a$Gv&fu  
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    End of Run. HHq_P/'  
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    这就有了些疑问,为什么我选择的补偿器是近轴焦点,而分析结果近轴焦点都不变化??应该是变得。另外最后的蒙特卡洛分析,只有10%的大于0.5(我用的是MTF作为评价方式),可是我设计的MTF如图 j'%$XvI  
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    是大于0.6左右的,难道我按照这个默认的公差来加工的话,只有10%的才可能大于0.5?那太低了啊,请问这该怎么进行进一步处理。或者之前哪有问题 @fs`=lL/  
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    只看该作者 1楼 发表于: 2011-06-21
    我又试了试,原来是得根据上面的结果不断修改公差,放松或者变紧,然后在做公差分析,不断提高蒙特卡罗的结果。但是比如就拿我这个来说,理想是达到30lp处>0.6,那么实际做蒙特卡罗公差分析时,百分之多少以上的MTF是合格的呢?
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    90% >       0.20977951                 = M]iIWQ@`  
    80% >       0.22748071                 ,0E{h}(  
    50% >       0.38667627                 'XzXZJ[uq  
    20% >       0.46553746                 L=q+|j1>  
    10% >       0.50064115 6oLwfTy  
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    最后这个数值是MTF值呢,还是MTF的公差? :um|nRwy9  
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    也就是说,这到底是有90%的产品MTF大于0.20977951还是90%的产品的MTF变化量大于0.20977951???   U Z|HJ8_  
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    怎么没人啊,大家讨论讨论吗
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    没有人啊???
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    引用第2楼sansummer于2011-06-22 08:56发表的  : =) E,8L  
    90% >       0.20977951                 Dk+&X-]6x5  
    80% >       0.22748071                 8[|UgI,>z  
    50% >       0.38667627                 i~3u>CT  
    20% >       0.46553746                 Gcb|W&  
    10% >       0.50064115 HLBkR>e  
    ....... {t Thy#  
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    这些数值都是MTF值
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    Criterion           : Geometric MTF average S&T at 30.0000 cycles per mm   l^d[EL+  
    Mode                : Sensitivities %lX%8Z$v  
    Sampling            : 2 >XOiu#kC  
    Nominal Criterion   : 0.54403234 1yV: qp  
    Test Wavelength     : 0.6328 sHcTd>xS  
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    波长632.8nm 时 mtf 是 0.54403234  没达到0.6
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    谢谢。您说的“波长632.8nm 时 mtf 是 0.54403234  没达到0.6”这是一个评价标准吧? 7 Sa1;%R  
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    这个评价标准和我理想的设计结果的0.6有什么联系吗,另外这个 0.54403234  是这么来的?
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    你试试把原来的系统波长改成632.8nm,看看Geometric MTF    30 per mm 的mtf值是不是0.54403234
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    啊...这倒也是。换了波长的确可能有所变化。另外还有就是如果现在百分比太低,我是否应该考虑把最敏感的公差再紧一些,就会好了?
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    恩,多多尝试