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    只看楼主 倒序阅读 楼主  发表于: 2011-06-21
    我现在在初学zemax的公差分析,找了一个双胶合透镜 4 *He<2g  
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    然后添加了默认公差分析,基本没变 )gvX eJ  
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    然后运行分析的结果如下: 9NaC7D$,  
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    Analysis of Tolerances =NAL*4c+  
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    File : E:\光学设计资料\zemax练习\f500.ZMX /+2^xEIjE  
    Title: ?ZdHuuDN~  
    Date : TUE JUN 21 2011 ~Ht[kO  
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    Units are Millimeters. M^r1b1tR  
    All changes are computed using linear differences. CcgCKT  
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    Paraxial Focus compensation only. zi2hi9A  
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    WARNING: Solves should be removed prior to tolerancing. .zlUN0oe  
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    Mnemonics: 3RscuD&  
    TFRN: Tolerance on curvature in fringes. |=l;UqB  
    TTHI: Tolerance on thickness. Gi]Pwo${  
    TSDX: Tolerance on surface decentering in x. }pPxN@X  
    TSDY: Tolerance on surface decentering in y. =4 &9!Z  
    TSTX: Tolerance on surface tilt in x (degrees). Niou=PI@  
    TSTY: Tolerance on surface tilt in y (degrees). y M , hF  
    TIRR: Tolerance on irregularity (fringes). T$GhE  
    TIND: Tolerance on Nd index of refraction. $tj[ *  
    TEDX: Tolerance on element decentering in x. 2aW&d=!ZV  
    TEDY: Tolerance on element decentering in y. Eo)Q> AM  
    TETX: Tolerance on element tilt in x (degrees). [>;U1Wt  
    TETY: Tolerance on element tilt in y (degrees). ;*wZgl  
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    WARNING: RAY AIMING IS OFF. Very loose tolerances may not be computed accurately. O]m,zk  
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    WARNING: Boundary constraints on compensators will be ignored. /V46:`V  
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    Criterion           : Geometric MTF average S&T at 30.0000 cycles per mm _(<[!c!@0  
    Mode                : Sensitivities ocAoqjlT[  
    Sampling            : 2 *<x EM-  
    Nominal Criterion   : 0.54403234 P et0yH  
    Test Wavelength     : 0.6328 /0!6;PC<  
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    Fields: XY Symmetric Angle in degrees d;:+Xd`  
    #      X-Field      Y-Field       Weight    VDX    VDY    VCX    VCY vxZvK0b620  
    1   0.000E+000   0.000E+000   1.000E+000  0.000  0.000  0.000  0.000 7>wSbAR<  
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    Sensitivity Analysis: ,;O+2TX  
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                     |----------------- Minimum ----------------| |----------------- Maximum ----------------| _yJd@  
    Type                      Value      Criterion        Change          Value      Criterion        Change fi:Z*-  
    Fringe tolerance on surface 1 opjrU$<]N  
    TFRN   1            -1.00000000     0.54257256    -0.00145977     1.00000000     0.54548607     0.00145374 #";(&|7  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.000000                            0.000000 JdfjOlEb  
    Fringe tolerance on surface 2 v#(wc +[  
    TFRN   2            -1.00000000     0.54177471    -0.00225762     1.00000000     0.54627463     0.00224230 fHb0pp\[.  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 u(\b1h n  
    Fringe tolerance on surface 3 $vTU|o>|  
    TFRN   3            -1.00000000     0.54779866     0.00376632     1.00000000     0.54022572    -0.00380662 [FAoC3 k-h  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.000000                            0.000000 +*DXzVC  
    Thickness tolerance on surface 1 %S]5wR6;_  
    TTHI   1   3        -0.20000000     0.54321462    -0.00081772     0.20000000     0.54484759     0.00081525 |mc!v*O  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 + 3aAL&  
    Thickness tolerance on surface 2 @PU%BKe  
    TTHI   2   3        -0.20000000     0.54478712     0.00075478     0.20000000     0.54327558    -0.00075675 p(v+j_ak  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                           -0.000000 i 0L)hkV  
    Decenter X tolerance on surfaces 1 through 3 :p=IZY  
    TEDX   1   3        -0.20000000     0.54401464   -1.7700E-005     0.20000000     0.54401464   -1.7700E-005 1$q SbQ  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000  *9`@  
    Decenter Y tolerance on surfaces 1 through 3 km}%7|R?  
    TEDY   1   3        -0.20000000     0.54401464   -1.7700E-005     0.20000000     0.54401464   -1.7700E-005 Yr ,e7da  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 .?<,J  
    Tilt X tolerance on surfaces 1 through 3 (degrees) qI) Yzc/  
    TETX   1   3        -0.20000000     0.54897548     0.00494314     0.20000000     0.54897548     0.00494314 UKZsq5Q  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 yw{GO([ZQ  
    Tilt Y tolerance on surfaces 1 through 3 (degrees) _Sosw|A  
    TETY   1   3        -0.20000000     0.54897548     0.00494314     0.20000000     0.54897548     0.00494314 b9%hzD,MR  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 4@4$kro  
    Decenter X tolerance on surface 1 Qg%B<3 <  
    TSDX   1            -0.20000000     0.53999563    -0.00403671     0.20000000     0.53999563    -0.00403671 bEMD2ABm  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 =Mc*~[D/  
    Decenter Y tolerance on surface 1 egYJ.ZzF0  
    TSDY   1            -0.20000000     0.53999563    -0.00403671     0.20000000     0.53999563    -0.00403671 E/Q[J.$o  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 [_^K}\/+  
    Tilt X tolerance on surface (degrees) 1 /U`"Xx  
    TSTX   1            -0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851     0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851 SYw>P1  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 eXc`"T,C.  
    Tilt Y tolerance on surface (degrees) 1 ("}TW-r~  
    TSTY   1            -0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851     0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851 {3i.U028]  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 bvUjH5.7  
    Decenter X tolerance on surface 2 ,l_"%xYx  
    TSDX   2            -0.20000000     0.51705427    -0.02697807     0.20000000     0.51705427    -0.02697807 Vge9AH:op  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 Elo m_   
    Decenter Y tolerance on surface 2 pyq~_ Bng  
    TSDY   2            -0.20000000     0.51705427    -0.02697807     0.20000000     0.51705427    -0.02697807 "S,,BjL  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 gH,^XZe  
    Tilt X tolerance on surface (degrees) 2 f2`[skNj  
    TSTX   2            -0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324     0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324 ?.LS _e_0  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 JpcG5gX^B  
    Tilt Y tolerance on surface (degrees) 2 Ty}'A(U  
    TSTY   2            -0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324     0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324 D2#3fM6  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 >KNiMW^V  
    Decenter X tolerance on surface 3 /3Zo8.  
    TSDX   3            -0.20000000     0.53419039    -0.00984195     0.20000000     0.53419039    -0.00984195 T[`o$j6  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 QaH32(iH  
    Decenter Y tolerance on surface 3 @dvlSqm)  
    TSDY   3            -0.20000000     0.53419039    -0.00984195     0.20000000     0.53419039    -0.00984195 rUc2'Ct  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 Nz'fMdaX,  
    Tilt X tolerance on surface (degrees) 3  Eh^c4x  
    TSTX   3            -0.20000000     0.42861670    -0.11541563     0.20000000     0.42861670    -0.11541563 [6`8^-}?  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 @!=q.4b  
    Tilt Y tolerance on surface (degrees) 3 jL8.*pfv  
    TSTY   3            -0.20000000     0.42861670    -0.11541563     0.20000000     0.42861670    -0.11541563 ]]Sz|6P  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 }Y[xj{2$O  
    Irregularity of surface 1 in fringes W;4rhZEgd  
    TIRR   1            -0.20000000     0.50973587    -0.03429647     0.20000000     0.57333868     0.02930634 ,6=j'j1#a  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000  _/;vsQB  
    Irregularity of surface 2 in fringes Sb+^~M  
    TIRR   2            -0.20000000     0.53400904    -0.01002330     0.20000000     0.55360281     0.00957047 :XC~G&HuF6  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 I q]+O Q  
    Irregularity of surface 3 in fringes @SjISZw_  
    TIRR   3            -0.20000000     0.58078982     0.03675748     0.20000000     0.49904394    -0.04498840 g`i?]6c}jt  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 0Dv r:]R  
    Index tolerance on surface 1 $M5iU@A  
    TIND   1            -0.00100000     0.52606778    -0.01796456     0.00100000     0.56121811     0.01718578 Q bjO*:c4  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 f~%|Iu1ob  
    Index tolerance on surface 2 Y``50{7  
    TIND   2            -0.00100000     0.55639086     0.01235852     0.00100000     0.53126361    -0.01276872 ,bzE`6  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                           -0.000000 Ngi] I#V z  
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    Worst offenders: RZoSP(6  
    Type                      Value      Criterion        Change Lp.dF)C\  
    TSTY   2            -0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324 %CV@FdB  
    TSTY   2             0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324 -+?ZJ^A   
    TSTX   2            -0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324 |J-Osi  
    TSTX   2             0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324 "yJFb=Xdq  
    TSTY   1            -0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851 H(Pzo+k*  
    TSTY   1             0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851 ^ >JAl<k  
    TSTX   1            -0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851 q4=Gj`\43  
    TSTX   1             0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851 6|:K1bI)  
    TSTY   3            -0.20000000     0.42861670    -0.11541563  UCV1{  
    TSTY   3             0.20000000     0.42861670    -0.11541563 4zKmoYt  
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    Estimated Performance Changes based upon Root-Sum-Square method: L|ZxB7xk  
    Nominal MTF                 :     0.54403234 C$WUg<kcK'  
    Estimated change            :    -0.36299231 *lyy|3z  
    Estimated MTF               :     0.18104003 /|Z_Dy  
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    Compensator Statistics: H c,e&R  
    Change in back focus: lt08 E2p9  
    Minimum            :        -0.000000 gr1NcHu  
    Maximum            :         0.000000 AK$&'t+$}7  
    Mean               :        -0.000000 uaghB,i'n  
    Standard Deviation :         0.000000 mO<1&{qMZ  
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    Monte Carlo Analysis: >vQ8~*xd  
    Number of trials: 20 u+EZ"p;o  
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    Initial Statistics: Normal Distribution USd7g Oq(  
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      Trial       Criterion        Change .ni<'  
          1     0.42804416    -0.11598818 M`  V<`  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.400171 M/?eDW/  
          2     0.54384387    -0.00018847 8]h~jNku  
    Change in Focus                :       1.018470 K}|zKTh:?  
          3     0.44510003    -0.09893230 B 703{k  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.601922 *!oV?N[eA'  
          4     0.18154684    -0.36248550 W_.WMbT  
    Change in Focus                :       0.920681 &fofFVQnW  
          5     0.28665820    -0.25737414 $Mg[e*ct  
    Change in Focus                :       1.253875 hZ_@U?^  
          6     0.21263372    -0.33139862 UahsX  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.903878 6mV-+CnYC  
          7     0.40051424    -0.14351809 :'`y}'  
    Change in Focus                :      -1.354815 ?_ 476A  
          8     0.48754161    -0.05649072 moS0y?N  
    Change in Focus                :       0.215922 0\zY?UUww  
          9     0.40357468    -0.14045766 BTc }Kfae  
    Change in Focus                :       0.281783 _=Z?5{7S >  
         10     0.26315315    -0.28087919 *Xcqnu('  
    Change in Focus                :      -1.048393 &cGa~#-u  
         11     0.26120585    -0.28282649 x" lcE@(  
    Change in Focus                :       1.017611 5(5:5q.A/D  
         12     0.24033815    -0.30369419 3c%_RI.  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.109292 36e  
         13     0.37164046    -0.17239188 Gr-~&pm  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.692430 )Fgu'  
         14     0.48597489    -0.05805744 @yM$Et5  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.662040 &NKb},~  
         15     0.21462327    -0.32940907 ~+ kfb^<-  
    Change in Focus                :       1.611296 PctXh, =  
         16     0.43378226    -0.11025008 <$(y6+lY  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.640081 !mZDukfjQ  
         17     0.39321881    -0.15081353 +pPfvE`  
    Change in Focus                :       0.914906 po\(O8#5U  
         18     0.20692530    -0.33710703 v]Fw~Y7l!  
    Change in Focus                :       0.801607 'B:8tv  
         19     0.51374068    -0.03029165 5G2G<[p5oQ  
    Change in Focus                :       0.947293 !He_f-eZ  
         20     0.38013374    -0.16389860 iC{(vL0P+  
    Change in Focus                :       0.667010  WD55(  
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    Number of traceable Monte Carlo files generated: 20 =MU(!`  
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    Nominal     0.54403234 W_L*S4 ~  
    Best        0.54384387    Trial     2 |'Z+`HI  
    Worst       0.18154684    Trial     4 dbJ3E)rF  
    Mean        0.35770970 _h+7 KK  
    Std Dev     0.11156454 QLH!>9Ch  
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    Compensator Statistics: /W GD7\G'8  
    Change in back focus: }.a{;{y  
    Minimum            :        -1.354815 L{&>,ww  
    Maximum            :         1.611296 S B~opN  
    Mean               :         0.161872 C$p012D1  
    Standard Deviation :         0.869664 :i4AkBNK  
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    90% >       0.20977951               D]o=I1O?  
    80% >       0.22748071               $PG(>1e  
    50% >       0.38667627               _\=x A6!  
    20% >       0.46553746               r+8)<Xt+p  
    10% >       0.50064115                egK~w8`W%  
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    End of Run. mv>0j<C91  
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    这就有了些疑问,为什么我选择的补偿器是近轴焦点,而分析结果近轴焦点都不变化??应该是变得。另外最后的蒙特卡洛分析,只有10%的大于0.5(我用的是MTF作为评价方式),可是我设计的MTF如图 T+^Sa J  
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    是大于0.6左右的,难道我按照这个默认的公差来加工的话,只有10%的才可能大于0.5?那太低了啊,请问这该怎么进行进一步处理。或者之前哪有问题 _&~l,%)&  
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    只看该作者 1楼 发表于: 2011-06-21
    我又试了试,原来是得根据上面的结果不断修改公差,放松或者变紧,然后在做公差分析,不断提高蒙特卡罗的结果。但是比如就拿我这个来说,理想是达到30lp处>0.6,那么实际做蒙特卡罗公差分析时,百分之多少以上的MTF是合格的呢?
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    90% >       0.20977951                 *= O]^|]2  
    80% >       0.22748071                 L){V(*K '  
    50% >       0.38667627                 =xDxX#3  
    20% >       0.46553746                 OwEV$Q  
    10% >       0.50064115 iZ>P>x\  
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    最后这个数值是MTF值呢,还是MTF的公差? !@])Ut@tN  
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    也就是说,这到底是有90%的产品MTF大于0.20977951还是90%的产品的MTF变化量大于0.20977951???   y{&%]Fq <5  
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    怎么没人啊,大家讨论讨论吗
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    没有人啊???
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    引用第2楼sansummer于2011-06-22 08:56发表的  : mXhC-8P  
    90% >       0.20977951                 g$mMH  
    80% >       0.22748071                 <&`Rf6  
    50% >       0.38667627                  \v+c.  
    20% >       0.46553746                 cZ !$XXA`  
    10% >       0.50064115 Y@q9   
    ....... /=l!F'  
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    这些数值都是MTF值
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    Criterion           : Geometric MTF average S&T at 30.0000 cycles per mm   hT_Q_1,  
    Mode                : Sensitivities ge%QbU1J  
    Sampling            : 2 -Vb5d!(  
    Nominal Criterion   : 0.54403234 Isvb;VT9L  
    Test Wavelength     : 0.6328 i"Hc(lg  
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    波长632.8nm 时 mtf 是 0.54403234  没达到0.6
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    谢谢。您说的“波长632.8nm 时 mtf 是 0.54403234  没达到0.6”这是一个评价标准吧?  Y%y  
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    这个评价标准和我理想的设计结果的0.6有什么联系吗,另外这个 0.54403234  是这么来的?
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    你试试把原来的系统波长改成632.8nm,看看Geometric MTF    30 per mm 的mtf值是不是0.54403234
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    啊...这倒也是。换了波长的确可能有所变化。另外还有就是如果现在百分比太低,我是否应该考虑把最敏感的公差再紧一些,就会好了?
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