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    只看楼主 倒序阅读 楼主  发表于: 2011-06-21
    我现在在初学zemax的公差分析,找了一个双胶合透镜 iVA=D&eZ  
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    然后添加了默认公差分析,基本没变 lF~!F<^9  
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    然后运行分析的结果如下: /~pB_l  
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    Analysis of Tolerances ?~ /_&=NSx  
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    File : E:\光学设计资料\zemax练习\f500.ZMX JsDT  
    Title: _C@<*L=Q  
    Date : TUE JUN 21 2011 ;I~ UQgE6H  
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    Units are Millimeters. '}E"M db  
    All changes are computed using linear differences. ,soXX_Y>  
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    Paraxial Focus compensation only. iw I}  
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    WARNING: Solves should be removed prior to tolerancing. [#+klP$  
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    Mnemonics: TmEh$M  
    TFRN: Tolerance on curvature in fringes. P7*?E*   
    TTHI: Tolerance on thickness. @^nE^;  
    TSDX: Tolerance on surface decentering in x. n\u3$nGL1`  
    TSDY: Tolerance on surface decentering in y. B*n_ VBd  
    TSTX: Tolerance on surface tilt in x (degrees). U[6 ~ad a  
    TSTY: Tolerance on surface tilt in y (degrees). `Wp y6o  
    TIRR: Tolerance on irregularity (fringes). 8r48+_y3u  
    TIND: Tolerance on Nd index of refraction. 0xUn#&A~  
    TEDX: Tolerance on element decentering in x. z;\,Dt  
    TEDY: Tolerance on element decentering in y. Ie4X k  
    TETX: Tolerance on element tilt in x (degrees). !jRs5{n^Ol  
    TETY: Tolerance on element tilt in y (degrees). xOKf|  
    M7//*Q'?  
    WARNING: RAY AIMING IS OFF. Very loose tolerances may not be computed accurately. =:m6ge@C&H  
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    WARNING: Boundary constraints on compensators will be ignored. a<P?4tbF  
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    Criterion           : Geometric MTF average S&T at 30.0000 cycles per mm e%^PVi  
    Mode                : Sensitivities 4_ kg/  
    Sampling            : 2 P>_ r6C  
    Nominal Criterion   : 0.54403234 cCqmrjUmV  
    Test Wavelength     : 0.6328 WTUC\}#E\  
    IQ5'4zQg=  
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    Fields: XY Symmetric Angle in degrees /<CgSW}  
    #      X-Field      Y-Field       Weight    VDX    VDY    VCX    VCY ;;mr?'R  
    1   0.000E+000   0.000E+000   1.000E+000  0.000  0.000  0.000  0.000 ?F9c6$|  
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    Sensitivity Analysis: )No>Q :t  
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                     |----------------- Minimum ----------------| |----------------- Maximum ----------------| v[<;z(7Qk  
    Type                      Value      Criterion        Change          Value      Criterion        Change z W*Z  
    Fringe tolerance on surface 1 ef:YYt{|q  
    TFRN   1            -1.00000000     0.54257256    -0.00145977     1.00000000     0.54548607     0.00145374 \6vr)1~N>  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.000000                            0.000000 8!qzG4F/  
    Fringe tolerance on surface 2 'v_k #%  
    TFRN   2            -1.00000000     0.54177471    -0.00225762     1.00000000     0.54627463     0.00224230 ~Q+J1S]Fs  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 dQ_yb+<  
    Fringe tolerance on surface 3 X"S")BQ q  
    TFRN   3            -1.00000000     0.54779866     0.00376632     1.00000000     0.54022572    -0.00380662 i:x<Vi  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.000000                            0.000000 2 xt$w%  
    Thickness tolerance on surface 1 }nMp.7b  
    TTHI   1   3        -0.20000000     0.54321462    -0.00081772     0.20000000     0.54484759     0.00081525 jB3Rue:+g  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 D4PjE@D"H  
    Thickness tolerance on surface 2 ML:H\  
    TTHI   2   3        -0.20000000     0.54478712     0.00075478     0.20000000     0.54327558    -0.00075675 #* Iyvx  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                           -0.000000 Y >U_l:_^  
    Decenter X tolerance on surfaces 1 through 3 "/{H=X3was  
    TEDX   1   3        -0.20000000     0.54401464   -1.7700E-005     0.20000000     0.54401464   -1.7700E-005 E$s?)  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 ah15 ,<j  
    Decenter Y tolerance on surfaces 1 through 3 AV;x'H7G  
    TEDY   1   3        -0.20000000     0.54401464   -1.7700E-005     0.20000000     0.54401464   -1.7700E-005 Zn]!*}  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 oTk?a!Q  
    Tilt X tolerance on surfaces 1 through 3 (degrees) =S|dzgS/  
    TETX   1   3        -0.20000000     0.54897548     0.00494314     0.20000000     0.54897548     0.00494314 !z"nJC  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 IV|})[n*  
    Tilt Y tolerance on surfaces 1 through 3 (degrees) uex([;y  
    TETY   1   3        -0.20000000     0.54897548     0.00494314     0.20000000     0.54897548     0.00494314 oC|']r6  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 MmD1@fW32#  
    Decenter X tolerance on surface 1 Df=Xbf>jt9  
    TSDX   1            -0.20000000     0.53999563    -0.00403671     0.20000000     0.53999563    -0.00403671 o=Ia{@   
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 Wqas1yL_  
    Decenter Y tolerance on surface 1 T;{"lp.  
    TSDY   1            -0.20000000     0.53999563    -0.00403671     0.20000000     0.53999563    -0.00403671 C$^WW}S  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 7loIjT7  
    Tilt X tolerance on surface (degrees) 1 [*d<LAnuWP  
    TSTX   1            -0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851     0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851 m&k l_f7  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 Wrs6t  
    Tilt Y tolerance on surface (degrees) 1 %VwkYAgA  
    TSTY   1            -0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851     0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851 !.[H !-V.  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 RpU.v `  
    Decenter X tolerance on surface 2 l vfplA  
    TSDX   2            -0.20000000     0.51705427    -0.02697807     0.20000000     0.51705427    -0.02697807 )q>q]eHz  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 qw}. QwPT  
    Decenter Y tolerance on surface 2 52'0l>  
    TSDY   2            -0.20000000     0.51705427    -0.02697807     0.20000000     0.51705427    -0.02697807 D[<~^R;*  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 58gkE94  
    Tilt X tolerance on surface (degrees) 2 QI6=[  
    TSTX   2            -0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324     0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324 [}Y_O*C !  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 @T&w n k  
    Tilt Y tolerance on surface (degrees) 2 'rSJ9Mw"x  
    TSTY   2            -0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324     0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324 Fqg*H1I[  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 mLH,6rO9  
    Decenter X tolerance on surface 3 G!g];7PG(  
    TSDX   3            -0.20000000     0.53419039    -0.00984195     0.20000000     0.53419039    -0.00984195 {i/7Nx  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 O*m9qF<  
    Decenter Y tolerance on surface 3 eD0|6P;Ei  
    TSDY   3            -0.20000000     0.53419039    -0.00984195     0.20000000     0.53419039    -0.00984195 .pPtBqp  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 7 MG<!U  
    Tilt X tolerance on surface (degrees) 3 iB3C.wd-  
    TSTX   3            -0.20000000     0.42861670    -0.11541563     0.20000000     0.42861670    -0.11541563 k5eTfaxl  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 {lNG:o  
    Tilt Y tolerance on surface (degrees) 3 yIqRSqM  
    TSTY   3            -0.20000000     0.42861670    -0.11541563     0.20000000     0.42861670    -0.11541563 RwDXOdgu  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 |snWO0iF  
    Irregularity of surface 1 in fringes mjJ/rx{kbw  
    TIRR   1            -0.20000000     0.50973587    -0.03429647     0.20000000     0.57333868     0.02930634 {h~<!sEX  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 jYnP)xX;  
    Irregularity of surface 2 in fringes |]tsf /SA  
    TIRR   2            -0.20000000     0.53400904    -0.01002330     0.20000000     0.55360281     0.00957047 |jyD@Q,4  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 k;pU8y6Y  
    Irregularity of surface 3 in fringes BD&AtOj[,  
    TIRR   3            -0.20000000     0.58078982     0.03675748     0.20000000     0.49904394    -0.04498840 ]RTK:%  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 s+&iH  
    Index tolerance on surface 1 i?|b:lcV  
    TIND   1            -0.00100000     0.52606778    -0.01796456     0.00100000     0.56121811     0.01718578 Y!3i3D  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 LqoH]AcN  
    Index tolerance on surface 2 ]h}O&K/  
    TIND   2            -0.00100000     0.55639086     0.01235852     0.00100000     0.53126361    -0.01276872 Pv Vn}i   
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                           -0.000000 %DuSco"  
    qHC/)M#L  
    Worst offenders: GW!%DT  
    Type                      Value      Criterion        Change Pt?d+aBtV  
    TSTY   2            -0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324 ts;C:.X  
    TSTY   2             0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324 ~uh,R-Q$  
    TSTX   2            -0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324 1JF>0ijU@  
    TSTX   2             0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324 |k=5`WG  
    TSTY   1            -0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851 L?r\J8Ch<  
    TSTY   1             0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851 J9XV:)Yv#  
    TSTX   1            -0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851 ,<<HkEMS  
    TSTX   1             0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851 fx = %e  
    TSTY   3            -0.20000000     0.42861670    -0.11541563 rl XMrn  
    TSTY   3             0.20000000     0.42861670    -0.11541563 tz_WxOQ0  
    iK9#{1BpML  
    Estimated Performance Changes based upon Root-Sum-Square method: E9:p A5H-j  
    Nominal MTF                 :     0.54403234 bh UghHT  
    Estimated change            :    -0.36299231 i 2n66d  
    Estimated MTF               :     0.18104003 yrV]I(Xe  
    HOlMj!.  
    Compensator Statistics: f4&k48Ds  
    Change in back focus: UszR. Z  
    Minimum            :        -0.000000 d6{0[T^L  
    Maximum            :         0.000000 F/0x` l  
    Mean               :        -0.000000 S<"`9r)av  
    Standard Deviation :         0.000000 4zx_L8#Z  
    :1e'22[=.  
    Monte Carlo Analysis: ]M/*Beh  
    Number of trials: 20 cT3s{k  
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    Initial Statistics: Normal Distribution BH^8!7dkT  
    q=_tjg  
      Trial       Criterion        Change bTc'E#  
          1     0.42804416    -0.11598818 meR5E?Fm  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.400171 ~:):.5o  
          2     0.54384387    -0.00018847 r+;AEN48  
    Change in Focus                :       1.018470 N="H 06t  
          3     0.44510003    -0.09893230 Rb_+C  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.601922 BV6 U -  
          4     0.18154684    -0.36248550 R4[dh.lf  
    Change in Focus                :       0.920681 Nzel^~  
          5     0.28665820    -0.25737414 +@#k<.yqn  
    Change in Focus                :       1.253875 =.f<"P51k  
          6     0.21263372    -0.33139862 L6"?p-:@'  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.903878 P>;uS  
          7     0.40051424    -0.14351809 5.FAuzz  
    Change in Focus                :      -1.354815 L Olj8T8Z  
          8     0.48754161    -0.05649072 eVujur$P  
    Change in Focus                :       0.215922 ,: 4+hJ<q  
          9     0.40357468    -0.14045766 %XK<[BF  
    Change in Focus                :       0.281783 `~{ 0  
         10     0.26315315    -0.28087919 il >XV>  
    Change in Focus                :      -1.048393 #;9n_)  
         11     0.26120585    -0.28282649 1[H1l;  
    Change in Focus                :       1.017611 <[<]+r&*  
         12     0.24033815    -0.30369419 h6C:`0o  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.109292 -MT.qhx  
         13     0.37164046    -0.17239188 TH#5j.uUs  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.692430 `=rDB7!$yL  
         14     0.48597489    -0.05805744 i 79;;9M  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.662040 {B+{2;Zk  
         15     0.21462327    -0.32940907 zHW}A `Rz  
    Change in Focus                :       1.611296 :} 9Lb)Yp  
         16     0.43378226    -0.11025008 YztW1GvI  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.640081 PR*qyELu  
         17     0.39321881    -0.15081353 ;mLbgiqQ J  
    Change in Focus                :       0.914906 ZsepTtY  
         18     0.20692530    -0.33710703 ck\gazo~q  
    Change in Focus                :       0.801607 jq"iLgEMO  
         19     0.51374068    -0.03029165 9Z;"9$+M  
    Change in Focus                :       0.947293 u!K5jqP  
         20     0.38013374    -0.16389860 >KMTxHE`+  
    Change in Focus                :       0.667010 agMI$  
    %)@3V8OI  
    Number of traceable Monte Carlo files generated: 20 0xe*\CAo  
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    Nominal     0.54403234 iH[ .u{h  
    Best        0.54384387    Trial     2 SYmiDR  
    Worst       0.18154684    Trial     4 !BikqTM  
    Mean        0.35770970 )#_:5^1  
    Std Dev     0.11156454 2v9T&xo=  
    $7JWA9#N!  
    )k'4]=d <  
    Compensator Statistics: ;L.RfP"5<  
    Change in back focus: #{oGmzG!  
    Minimum            :        -1.354815 ThmN^N  
    Maximum            :         1.611296 NY!"?Zko  
    Mean               :         0.161872 5/"&C-t  
    Standard Deviation :         0.869664 vaOCH*}h  
    ~G*eJc0S:  
    90% >       0.20977951               z Qhc V  
    80% >       0.22748071               S6pvbaMZ  
    50% >       0.38667627               [_SV$Jz  
    20% >       0.46553746               (S4[,Sx6E  
    10% >       0.50064115                C.}Vm};M  
    qD/X%`>Q  
    End of Run. FeAMt  
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    这就有了些疑问,为什么我选择的补偿器是近轴焦点,而分析结果近轴焦点都不变化??应该是变得。另外最后的蒙特卡洛分析,只有10%的大于0.5(我用的是MTF作为评价方式),可是我设计的MTF如图 p swEIa  
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    是大于0.6左右的,难道我按照这个默认的公差来加工的话,只有10%的才可能大于0.5?那太低了啊,请问这该怎么进行进一步处理。或者之前哪有问题 6}9`z8  
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    只看该作者 1楼 发表于: 2011-06-21
    我又试了试,原来是得根据上面的结果不断修改公差,放松或者变紧,然后在做公差分析,不断提高蒙特卡罗的结果。但是比如就拿我这个来说,理想是达到30lp处>0.6,那么实际做蒙特卡罗公差分析时,百分之多少以上的MTF是合格的呢?
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    90% >       0.20977951                 9q=\_[\[  
    80% >       0.22748071                 BDCFToSf|  
    50% >       0.38667627                 lh?TEQ  
    20% >       0.46553746                 oA1d8*i^E  
    10% >       0.50064115 D>~S-]  
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    最后这个数值是MTF值呢,还是MTF的公差? 7<ZCeM2x  
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    也就是说,这到底是有90%的产品MTF大于0.20977951还是90%的产品的MTF变化量大于0.20977951???   ;:)?@IuSy  
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    怎么没人啊,大家讨论讨论吗
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    没有人啊???
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    引用第2楼sansummer于2011-06-22 08:56发表的  : j;|rI`67~  
    90% >       0.20977951                 HZ#<+~J  
    80% >       0.22748071                 #SzCd&hI  
    50% >       0.38667627                 BpGK`0H  
    20% >       0.46553746                 SRixT+E  
    10% >       0.50064115 ^h:%%\2  
    ....... t&r-;sH^[  
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    这些数值都是MTF值
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    Criterion           : Geometric MTF average S&T at 30.0000 cycles per mm   kc3dWWPe  
    Mode                : Sensitivities ~olta\|  
    Sampling            : 2 kO]],Vy`  
    Nominal Criterion   : 0.54403234 pMB~Lt9  
    Test Wavelength     : 0.6328 i_? S#L]h  
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    波长632.8nm 时 mtf 是 0.54403234  没达到0.6
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    谢谢。您说的“波长632.8nm 时 mtf 是 0.54403234  没达到0.6”这是一个评价标准吧? ^cE|o&Rm;  
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    这个评价标准和我理想的设计结果的0.6有什么联系吗,另外这个 0.54403234  是这么来的?
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    你试试把原来的系统波长改成632.8nm,看看Geometric MTF    30 per mm 的mtf值是不是0.54403234
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    啊...这倒也是。换了波长的确可能有所变化。另外还有就是如果现在百分比太低,我是否应该考虑把最敏感的公差再紧一些,就会好了?
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