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    只看楼主 倒序阅读 楼主  发表于: 2011-06-21
    我现在在初学zemax的公差分析,找了一个双胶合透镜 &fWYQ'\>  
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    然后添加了默认公差分析,基本没变 t= oTU,<  
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    然后运行分析的结果如下: I@9k+JB   
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    Analysis of Tolerances zMQ|j_ l9E  
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    File : E:\光学设计资料\zemax练习\f500.ZMX :ift{XR'  
    Title: 3Q"4-pd  
    Date : TUE JUN 21 2011 d ;W(Vm6  
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    Units are Millimeters. u6(>?r-  
    All changes are computed using linear differences. L(!mm  
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    Paraxial Focus compensation only. S\O6B1<:  
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    WARNING: Solves should be removed prior to tolerancing. y~\K~qjd  
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    Mnemonics: ?krgZ;Jj  
    TFRN: Tolerance on curvature in fringes. y}bE'Od  
    TTHI: Tolerance on thickness. H:HJHd"W  
    TSDX: Tolerance on surface decentering in x. H|iY<7@  
    TSDY: Tolerance on surface decentering in y. 4aQb+t,  
    TSTX: Tolerance on surface tilt in x (degrees). 13nXvYo'  
    TSTY: Tolerance on surface tilt in y (degrees). W!BIz&SY:-  
    TIRR: Tolerance on irregularity (fringes). m*S[oy&  
    TIND: Tolerance on Nd index of refraction. zbDM+;  
    TEDX: Tolerance on element decentering in x. yy6?16@  
    TEDY: Tolerance on element decentering in y. ard<T}|N  
    TETX: Tolerance on element tilt in x (degrees). SlZ>N$E  
    TETY: Tolerance on element tilt in y (degrees). *!*J5/ b  
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    WARNING: RAY AIMING IS OFF. Very loose tolerances may not be computed accurately. Ih.6"ISK}  
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    WARNING: Boundary constraints on compensators will be ignored. ;9hi2_luV  
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    Criterion           : Geometric MTF average S&T at 30.0000 cycles per mm DEw_dOJ(  
    Mode                : Sensitivities +L8 6 w7  
    Sampling            : 2 >9.xFiq<  
    Nominal Criterion   : 0.54403234 ^^I3%6UY  
    Test Wavelength     : 0.6328 *X K9-%3  
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    Fields: XY Symmetric Angle in degrees hd2 X/"  
    #      X-Field      Y-Field       Weight    VDX    VDY    VCX    VCY .hxcx>%  
    1   0.000E+000   0.000E+000   1.000E+000  0.000  0.000  0.000  0.000 f: h.O# d>  
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    Sensitivity Analysis: =U5lPsiv,3  
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                     |----------------- Minimum ----------------| |----------------- Maximum ----------------| 89@e &h*  
    Type                      Value      Criterion        Change          Value      Criterion        Change 0} UJP   
    Fringe tolerance on surface 1 ,rp-`E5ap  
    TFRN   1            -1.00000000     0.54257256    -0.00145977     1.00000000     0.54548607     0.00145374 ~\%MJ3  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.000000                            0.000000 I9`R L Sn  
    Fringe tolerance on surface 2 =;/4j'1}9  
    TFRN   2            -1.00000000     0.54177471    -0.00225762     1.00000000     0.54627463     0.00224230 jy] hP?QG  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 @JWoF^U  
    Fringe tolerance on surface 3 D %`64R  
    TFRN   3            -1.00000000     0.54779866     0.00376632     1.00000000     0.54022572    -0.00380662 b g'B^E3  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.000000                            0.000000 _|S>, D'  
    Thickness tolerance on surface 1 XLK#=YTI  
    TTHI   1   3        -0.20000000     0.54321462    -0.00081772     0.20000000     0.54484759     0.00081525 ,))UQ7N  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 .Y%)&  
    Thickness tolerance on surface 2 p0xd c3  
    TTHI   2   3        -0.20000000     0.54478712     0.00075478     0.20000000     0.54327558    -0.00075675 Ok+zUA[Wu  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                           -0.000000 rdsm /^,s  
    Decenter X tolerance on surfaces 1 through 3 av(d0E}}b  
    TEDX   1   3        -0.20000000     0.54401464   -1.7700E-005     0.20000000     0.54401464   -1.7700E-005 \vB-0w  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 IPU'M*|Q  
    Decenter Y tolerance on surfaces 1 through 3 )K8k3]y&  
    TEDY   1   3        -0.20000000     0.54401464   -1.7700E-005     0.20000000     0.54401464   -1.7700E-005 4'W|'4'b  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 fn zj@_{|  
    Tilt X tolerance on surfaces 1 through 3 (degrees) zn T85#]\@  
    TETX   1   3        -0.20000000     0.54897548     0.00494314     0.20000000     0.54897548     0.00494314 %:n1S]Vr  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 &X +Qi  
    Tilt Y tolerance on surfaces 1 through 3 (degrees) l[O!_bH  
    TETY   1   3        -0.20000000     0.54897548     0.00494314     0.20000000     0.54897548     0.00494314 {R7>-Y[4)2  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 .#uRJo%8  
    Decenter X tolerance on surface 1 WYQJ +z5  
    TSDX   1            -0.20000000     0.53999563    -0.00403671     0.20000000     0.53999563    -0.00403671 {_1^ GIIS  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 /LM*nN$%  
    Decenter Y tolerance on surface 1 ~y}M GUEC  
    TSDY   1            -0.20000000     0.53999563    -0.00403671     0.20000000     0.53999563    -0.00403671 8u$Kr q  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 ObIi$uJX  
    Tilt X tolerance on surface (degrees) 1 FDaHsiI:  
    TSTX   1            -0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851     0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851 %Yg;s'F>#q  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 }(AUe5aw`G  
    Tilt Y tolerance on surface (degrees) 1 aW7{T6.,  
    TSTY   1            -0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851     0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851 ;^ :9huN  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 p3:x\P<|  
    Decenter X tolerance on surface 2 .9Bimhc6K  
    TSDX   2            -0.20000000     0.51705427    -0.02697807     0.20000000     0.51705427    -0.02697807 :4h4vp<  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 ?#xNz=V  
    Decenter Y tolerance on surface 2 v#.FK:u}  
    TSDY   2            -0.20000000     0.51705427    -0.02697807     0.20000000     0.51705427    -0.02697807 xDu11W+g  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 kL^;^!Nt  
    Tilt X tolerance on surface (degrees) 2 H*3f8A&@s  
    TSTX   2            -0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324     0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324 d3T|N\(DL  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 >U^AIaW  
    Tilt Y tolerance on surface (degrees) 2 {nT !|S)$  
    TSTY   2            -0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324     0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324 v@;:aN  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 p2PD';"  
    Decenter X tolerance on surface 3 .s|n}{D_i  
    TSDX   3            -0.20000000     0.53419039    -0.00984195     0.20000000     0.53419039    -0.00984195 6g!#"=ls;  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 FpE83}@".w  
    Decenter Y tolerance on surface 3 9Ps:]Kp!vN  
    TSDY   3            -0.20000000     0.53419039    -0.00984195     0.20000000     0.53419039    -0.00984195 #6_?7 (X  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 3O<<XXar  
    Tilt X tolerance on surface (degrees) 3 /a6\G.C5  
    TSTX   3            -0.20000000     0.42861670    -0.11541563     0.20000000     0.42861670    -0.11541563 ~)D2U:"^xm  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 z.eqOPW  
    Tilt Y tolerance on surface (degrees) 3 Ly\$?3 h  
    TSTY   3            -0.20000000     0.42861670    -0.11541563     0.20000000     0.42861670    -0.11541563 C/e`O|G  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 a=gTGG"9  
    Irregularity of surface 1 in fringes ?]f+)tCMs  
    TIRR   1            -0.20000000     0.50973587    -0.03429647     0.20000000     0.57333868     0.02930634 -B$oq8)n*  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 <\?ySto  
    Irregularity of surface 2 in fringes ~R/7J{Sg  
    TIRR   2            -0.20000000     0.53400904    -0.01002330     0.20000000     0.55360281     0.00957047 4QK([q  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 4pkc9\  
    Irregularity of surface 3 in fringes &qFdP'E;$  
    TIRR   3            -0.20000000     0.58078982     0.03675748     0.20000000     0.49904394    -0.04498840 [X)+(-J  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 ;=hl!CB  
    Index tolerance on surface 1 8nQlmWpJ  
    TIND   1            -0.00100000     0.52606778    -0.01796456     0.00100000     0.56121811     0.01718578 Gp$[u4-6M6  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                            0.000000 ~*Ve>4  
    Index tolerance on surface 2 eg) =^b  
    TIND   2            -0.00100000     0.55639086     0.01235852     0.00100000     0.53126361    -0.01276872 C;wN>HE  
    Change in Focus                :       0.000000                           -0.000000 JJ ,Fh .  
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    Worst offenders: ~.AUy%$_g+  
    Type                      Value      Criterion        Change b`E0tZcJ  
    TSTY   2            -0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324 R+gh 2 6e  
    TSTY   2             0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324 o&g=Z4jj<  
    TSTX   2            -0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324 5wRDH1z@{  
    TSTX   2             0.20000000     0.35349910    -0.19053324  ;e()|  
    TSTY   1            -0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851 (SoV2[|  
    TSTY   1             0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851 k$}XZ,Q  
    TSTX   1            -0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851 1 @E<5rp o  
    TSTX   1             0.20000000     0.42678383    -0.11724851 dI-=0v-|  
    TSTY   3            -0.20000000     0.42861670    -0.11541563 CBs0>M/  
    TSTY   3             0.20000000     0.42861670    -0.11541563 5)V J  
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    Estimated Performance Changes based upon Root-Sum-Square method: I5F oh|)  
    Nominal MTF                 :     0.54403234 Q0,]Q ]_  
    Estimated change            :    -0.36299231 FM0)/6I'x  
    Estimated MTF               :     0.18104003 ~y_TT5+ 3  
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    Compensator Statistics: ]0xbvJ8oK  
    Change in back focus: e<l Wel  
    Minimum            :        -0.000000 %#02Z%?%  
    Maximum            :         0.000000 c _O| ?1  
    Mean               :        -0.000000 g$?B!!qT  
    Standard Deviation :         0.000000 X82sw>Y  
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    Monte Carlo Analysis: +=|Q'V  
    Number of trials: 20 /Y:_qsO1  
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    Initial Statistics: Normal Distribution % &4sHDP  
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      Trial       Criterion        Change 8G1Tpn  
          1     0.42804416    -0.11598818 5ts8o&|   
    Change in Focus                :      -0.400171 Vg\EAs>f  
          2     0.54384387    -0.00018847 KZ`d3ad  
    Change in Focus                :       1.018470 7}%3Aw6]S  
          3     0.44510003    -0.09893230 k:Uyez  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.601922 %K;,qS'N_  
          4     0.18154684    -0.36248550 %xyt4}-)m  
    Change in Focus                :       0.920681 g*b%  
          5     0.28665820    -0.25737414 ToCB*GlL  
    Change in Focus                :       1.253875 st|$Fu  
          6     0.21263372    -0.33139862 IJs*zzR  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.903878 g/mVd;#o  
          7     0.40051424    -0.14351809 J Q%e'  
    Change in Focus                :      -1.354815 WA8Qt\Q  
          8     0.48754161    -0.05649072 7cr+a4T33  
    Change in Focus                :       0.215922 lK9us  
          9     0.40357468    -0.14045766 ]b.@i&M  
    Change in Focus                :       0.281783 gr4Hh/V  
         10     0.26315315    -0.28087919 Od>Ta_  
    Change in Focus                :      -1.048393 O=MO M  
         11     0.26120585    -0.28282649 ]3NH[&+  
    Change in Focus                :       1.017611 )mB+#T<k-  
         12     0.24033815    -0.30369419 %TPnC'2  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.109292 |5Mhrb4.  
         13     0.37164046    -0.17239188 %QVX1\>]  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.692430 /.aZXC$]  
         14     0.48597489    -0.05805744 9&g//JlD  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.662040 vZTX3c:,1  
         15     0.21462327    -0.32940907 /wKW  
    Change in Focus                :       1.611296 :7e2O!zH_  
         16     0.43378226    -0.11025008 {|^9y]VFu  
    Change in Focus                :      -0.640081 82YTd(yB  
         17     0.39321881    -0.15081353 8 %Lq~ lk  
    Change in Focus                :       0.914906 :tedtV ~  
         18     0.20692530    -0.33710703 AVOzx00U  
    Change in Focus                :       0.801607 f%an<>j^w  
         19     0.51374068    -0.03029165 TCX*$ac"  
    Change in Focus                :       0.947293 f:B+R  
         20     0.38013374    -0.16389860 E O52 E|  
    Change in Focus                :       0.667010 .D-}2<z  
    Nw+0b4{  
    Number of traceable Monte Carlo files generated: 20 )V!9&  
    }wC pr.@  
    Nominal     0.54403234 aM9^V MOb  
    Best        0.54384387    Trial     2 kmi[u8iXD_  
    Worst       0.18154684    Trial     4 SWz+.W{KQ"  
    Mean        0.35770970 NC>rZS]  
    Std Dev     0.11156454 {e/12q  
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    Compensator Statistics: yXh=~:1~  
    Change in back focus: ivb&J4?y  
    Minimum            :        -1.354815 >e/;  
    Maximum            :         1.611296  w+=>b  
    Mean               :         0.161872 !<h*\%;  
    Standard Deviation :         0.869664 !Z YMks4  
    !?D PI)  
    90% >       0.20977951               <dV|N$WV  
    80% >       0.22748071               _.' j'j%  
    50% >       0.38667627               ~x)Awdlu  
    20% >       0.46553746               `ihlKFX  
    10% >       0.50064115                W|NzdxCY  
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    End of Run. O/e5LA  
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    这就有了些疑问,为什么我选择的补偿器是近轴焦点,而分析结果近轴焦点都不变化??应该是变得。另外最后的蒙特卡洛分析,只有10%的大于0.5(我用的是MTF作为评价方式),可是我设计的MTF如图 I?G m  
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    是大于0.6左右的,难道我按照这个默认的公差来加工的话,只有10%的才可能大于0.5?那太低了啊,请问这该怎么进行进一步处理。或者之前哪有问题 YjdCCju  
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    只看该作者 1楼 发表于: 2011-06-21
    我又试了试,原来是得根据上面的结果不断修改公差,放松或者变紧,然后在做公差分析,不断提高蒙特卡罗的结果。但是比如就拿我这个来说,理想是达到30lp处>0.6,那么实际做蒙特卡罗公差分析时,百分之多少以上的MTF是合格的呢?
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    90% >       0.20977951                 luACdC  
    80% >       0.22748071                 qZ'&zB)  
    50% >       0.38667627                 #K.OJJaG  
    20% >       0.46553746                 OCnQSkj  
    10% >       0.50064115 _<yGen-  
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    最后这个数值是MTF值呢,还是MTF的公差? }b)7gd=  
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    也就是说,这到底是有90%的产品MTF大于0.20977951还是90%的产品的MTF变化量大于0.20977951???   0-M.>fwZ=  
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    怎么没人啊,大家讨论讨论吗
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    没有人啊???
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    引用第2楼sansummer于2011-06-22 08:56发表的  : En-BT0o  
    90% >       0.20977951                 t$+[(}@ +  
    80% >       0.22748071                 QE8;Jk-  
    50% >       0.38667627                 *O6q=yg;K:  
    20% >       0.46553746                 N;N,5rxV  
    10% >       0.50064115 93I.Wp_{  
    ....... cl3@+v1  
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    这些数值都是MTF值
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    Criterion           : Geometric MTF average S&T at 30.0000 cycles per mm   c ow]qe6K  
    Mode                : Sensitivities d4(!9O.\  
    Sampling            : 2 -%I 0Q  
    Nominal Criterion   : 0.54403234 #0*OkZMt  
    Test Wavelength     : 0.6328 (>.+tq}  
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    波长632.8nm 时 mtf 是 0.54403234  没达到0.6
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    谢谢。您说的“波长632.8nm 时 mtf 是 0.54403234  没达到0.6”这是一个评价标准吧? &uX| Ksq  
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    这个评价标准和我理想的设计结果的0.6有什么联系吗,另外这个 0.54403234  是这么来的?
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    你试试把原来的系统波长改成632.8nm,看看Geometric MTF    30 per mm 的mtf值是不是0.54403234
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    啊...这倒也是。换了波长的确可能有所变化。另外还有就是如果现在百分比太低,我是否应该考虑把最敏感的公差再紧一些,就会好了?
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    恩,多多尝试